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Re: triplet bracket disappear


From: Nick Didkovsky
Subject: Re: triplet bracket disappear
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:43:15 -0400
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Thank-you very much Vivian
The "ugly hack" has become my default as I cannot chase these cases down individually and stay sane. It's very unpredictable.
Best
Nick

Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
Hi all,
I know two solutions to this problem. Tuplet brackets disappear when the spacing gets tight, and seems to be a Lilypond "feature" rather than a bug. The first solution is to manually increase the spacing between notes in a tuplet:

\once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #0.7

or something like that - you may need to increase the 0.7.

The second is an ugly hack, which prints the bracket under all circumstances but doesn't look particularly good:

\once \override Score.TupletNumber #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0)

Because Lilypond uses the ratio between the TupletNumber X-extent and the TupletBracket X-extent to decide whether to print the TupletBracket, by setting the TupletNumber X-extent to ) you always get a bracket, but the bracket runs into the number. (I'm sure you gave that to me at some point, Mats.)

I would agree that this is a problem that should be resolved, at least to give users the option of always having a bracket printed.

Hope this helps,

Vivian.

On Aug 30, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Nick Didkovsky wrote:

Hello Mats

Today I had the same problem appear on a piano part that I extracted with default staff size. I got an 8th note followed by a qtr note, with only the number "3" below them, with no bracket. Boo. This is a real problem, and as I understand there may not be a fix, how should I proceed to ensure that this issue is addressed in future version of LilyPond?

Thank-you
Nick

Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Brackets that would be too short to print nicely are automatically removed. As far as I can remember, there is no possibility to specify the minimum width of a triplet and force LilyPond to modify the note spacing to get at least this width, but I may be wrong. There are such possibilities on some other objects,
like slurs, for example.

  /Mats

Nick Didkovsky wrote:
Hello,

I am using the following commands to get a short 6-measure, 9-staff piece to fit on one page:
#(set-default-paper-size "letter" 'landscape)
#(set-global-staff-size 13)

At this size, I discovered some (not all) of by triplet brackets disappear.

Has anyone experienced this? Is there a fix (other than using a larger global staff size)?

Thank-you
Nick Didkovsky


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