Re: accidental avoid-slur and max-stretch

[Neil Thornock]

Thanks Mats for the information and reference.  That helps a fair bit.

It would be nice to get the "no-trespass zone" of the sharp to move away from its center a bit - but all in due time, I suppose.

Manual tweakage, here I come!  (gotta love it!)

On 8/15/07, Mats Bengtsson < address@hidden> wrote:

Neil Thornock wrote:
> Okay, I'm not getting something about this.
>
> The output for this displays slurs clashing with accidentals.  I've
> seen this kind of collision before - but is there no way to avoid it
> automatically?  I thought avoid-slur would make some difference.
>
The default value of avoid-slur for Accidental objects is already
#'inside, so
your setting doesn't make any change. However, as you can see in the
following
example, it seems that LilyPond already tries to place the slur as much
as possible
outside the accidentals, compared to if you change the setting.
My guess is that there are other constraints as well that are taken into
account
so the resulting layout is a compromise between avoiding the collisions
completely
and still providing a reasonably beautiful slur shape. In a hand
engraved score,
the right end of the slur is probably moved upwards to help solving the
problem,
but I don't know if LilyPond is clever enough to try that option.

\layout {ragged-right = ##t}

\relative c' {
c( cis'') c,,( cis''!)
\override Accidental #'avoid-slur = #'around
c,,( cis'') c,,( cis''!)
}

\version "2.11.28"

> %%%%%
> \layout {ragged-right = ##t}
>
> \relative c' {
> \override Accidental #'avoid-slur = #'inside
> c( cis'') c,,( cis''!)}
>
> \version "2.11.28"
> %%%%%
>
> What am I doing wrong?  Or do I just have to manually tweak things?
>
> Also, I'm at my wits end trying to place #'max-stretch = #0 somewhere
> that it has any effect.  I assumed something like
>
> \override Score.VerticalAlignment #'max-stretch = #0
>
> would work, but I can't figure it out.
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-02/msg00408.html
Some properties are only read when an object is created, so that's probably
why you have to make the setting in the default definition of the Score
context.

   /Mats