Re: lyrics free from notes

[Trevor Bača]

On 6/4/07, Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden> wrote:
> Why not use the method described in the manual , section "Lyrics independent
> of notes"? Here's Trevor's example using that technique:
>
> \version "2.10.0"
>
> \new Staff <<
>   \new Voice {
>      \time 3/4
>      c'4 c'2
>   }
>   \new Devnull = "ref" {
>      c'4 c'4 c'4
>   }
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "ref" {
>      one two three
>   }
>  >>
>
>    /Mats
> Trevor Bača wrote:
> > On 6/4/07, Stan Sanderson <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Jun 3, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Alan Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I need a way to specify which beats the words of my
> >> > lyrics fall on independent of the voice that they are
> >> > associated with.  In the attached example I have
> >> > three words that I want on the corresponding beats:
> >> > one, two, three.  However, because the voice has a
> >> > half note for the last two beats Lilypond overlaps the
> >> > words 'two' and 'three' -- even though I've tried to override
> >> > by placing length numbers after every word.  I do want
> >> > the words to follow the music, for example if some
> >> > accidentals move the horizontal placement of the beat, etc.
> >> > Thanks for any help!
> >> > Alan
> >> >
> >>
> >> I hope I'm not misinterpreting your question, but have you tried an
> >> underscore between the words?
> >>
> >> \version "2.10.17"
> >> \score {
> >>    \new PianoStaff <<
> >>      \time 3/4
> >> <<
> >>      \new Voice {
> >>        \key g \major
> >>        b4 a2
> >>      }
> >>      \new Lyrics \lyricmode {
> >>        one two_three
> >>      }
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >> }
> >>
> >>
> >> Stan
> >
> > If what Alan's looking for is something like beat counts running below
> > the staff, then the following hack is available to print lyrics
> > attaching to an independent (and forcibly invisible) voice:
> >
> > %%% BEGIN %%%
> >
> > \version "2.11.22"
> >
> > \new Staff <<
> >   \new Voice {
> >      \time 3/4
> >      c'4 c'2
> >   }
> >   \new Voice = "ref" {
> >      \override Score.NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
> >      \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
> >      \override Stem #'transparent = ##t
> >      \override NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t
> >      c'4 c'4 c'4
> >   }
> >   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "ref" {
> >      one two three
> >   }
> >>>
> >
> > %%% END %%%
> >
> >
> > This is less than ideal; all the stuff about overriding the different
> > note grobs to transparent should really be something like ...
> >
> >   \new Voice = "ref" {
> >      s4 s4 s4
> >   }
> >
> > ... or possibly ...
> >
> >   \new Voice = "ref" {
> >      \override Rest #'invisible = ##t
> >      r4 r4 r4
> >   }
> >
> > ... instead. But neither of those cleaner versions work: Lily treats
> > skips different than notes and rests when it comes to the attachment
> > of spanner start and stop points and also, it would appear, in
> > recognizing whether a Voice has actually started or not; in the
> > skips-based example, I don't Lily ever instantiates the reference
> > voice in the first place, making lyrics attachment impossible.

Oh cool Devnull magic; (if I had turned over to 7.3.7.5 "Lyrics
independent of notes" I could have found it there).

Is it possible to use the Devnull context as a general type of
"reference voice" maker for items other than lyrics? Something like
this to rhythmically position the dynamics against a hidden reference
voice ...

%%% BEGIN %%%

\version "2.11.23"

\new Staff <<
  \new Devnull {
     c'8 \p
     c'8 \f
     c'8 \p
     c'8 \f
  }
  \new Voice {
     c'4 c'4 c'4
  }
> >

%%% END %%%


... but with, of course, the dynamics sticking around while only the
Devnull *notes* disappear?

I guess not since the purpose of Devnull is to junk stuff. But how
cool it would be to have a generic type of context in which you could
stuff all sorts of (possibly floating) decorative stuff -- spanners,
dynamics, arbitrary text scripts -- and have all the reference notes
to which those things attach simply disappear ...



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Trevor Bača
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