Re: Minimum padding after barlines for notes with accidentals?

[Rick Hansen (aka RickH)]

One of the suggested fixes was to adjust the BarLine space-alist "next-note"
entry to have a minimum-space of maybe 2.5.  I tried this and it fixes the
problem of accidentals touching the barline, but it makes notes that do not
have an accidental float too far from the bar line, it also breaks the
proper spacing of an arpeggio if that occurs first in the measure, and does
nothing to fix arpeggios or string numbers or other things attached to notes
on the left.  So that suggestion winds up breaking more than it fixes.

What is needed is a way for the barline itself to detect what is to the
right of itself and insert a minimum padding if it finds any object within
that minimum.  A solution like that will fix arpeggios, string numbers,
accidentals, etc. IOW all the things that when specified first in a measure,
touch the bar line.

Anyway here is a small test file that I've been trying to get to work using
only global settings, with no luck, notice how so many things touch the bar
line or come way too close to it.  I dred the tought of having to tweak
every measure of all the work I've done so far, so I'm really hoping there
is a global solution.

On a wet ink printer the accidentals do bleed into the barline although the
PDF does show some small spacing, but arpeggios and string numbers, etc
actually touch the bar.  In my example below note that there are no tweaks
in the notes themselves, my hope was for a solution that can be applied to
BarLine globally.



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

\version "2.9.17"
\include "english.ly"


\score {

{

   \new Staff \with {
           stringNumberOrientations = #'(left)
   }
   {
                \clef "treble"
                \key ef \major
                \time 1/4
                \relative c' {
            a'4
            |
            b
            |
            <c\6>
            |
            d,
            |
            e
            |
            f
            |
            <g b d f>\arpeggio
            |
            bf
            |
            b
            |
            c
            |
            c
            |
            b
            |
         }
   }

}


   \layout {
         ragged-right = ##t
         ragged-last = ##t
           ragged-bottom = ##t
           ragged-last-bottom = ##t
                indent = 0.0\in
                \context { \Score
                  \override BarLine #'space-alist = #'(
                        (time-signature . (extra-space . 0.75))
                        (custos . (minimum-space . 2.0))
                        (clef . (minimum-space . 1.0))
                        (key-signature . (extra-space . 1.0))
                        (key-cancellation . (extra-space . 1.0))
                        (first-note . (fixed-space . 1.3))
                        (next-note . (semi-fixed-space . 1.3))
                        (right-edge . (extra-space . 0.0)))
                }
                \context { \Staff
                        \override StringNumber #'font-size = #-5
         }
   }


} % end main score


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> 
> Hi, Rick:
> 
>> Yes, now I see it is happening on my left oriented string numbers, and
>> arpeggios too.  I think I'll wait for a more global fix from a  
>> developer,
>> (even if I have to try to do one of those complicated "call back"  
>> fixes),
>> rather than spend a week re-editing every measure and all future work.
> 
> I, too, would love a global fix! However, I've had too many time- 
> sensitive engravings to get out the door (commisisons, etc.) in the  
> meantime, so I went ahead with all the manual tweaks.
> 
>> Maybe this post belongs on the bug list, pretty serious IMO.
> 
> I've cross-posted; we'll see what happens!  =)
> 
> Best,
> Kieren.
> 
>> Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Rick!
>>>
>>>> There is a problem with notes that both start a measure and have an
>>>> accidental. [...] I can't be the first one to notice it).
>>>
>>> If you search the archives, you'll see that I've asked this question
>>> a number of times.
>>> And it's also true of other "left-side attachements", e.g.,  
>>> arpeggios.
>>>
>>> I've yet to receive a satisfactory response/solution/explanation.  =\
>>>
>>> What I've been doing in the meantime is manually tweaking the X-
>>> extent of the Accidental (or BarLine) to force the padding, e.g.
>>>
>>>      \once \override Accidental #'X-extent = #'(-2 . 1) bs
>>>
>>> It's definitely a time-consuming process, but I haven't found a
>>> better solution -- if you find one, I'd greatly appreciate hearing
>>> about it!  =)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kieren.
>>>
>>>
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