Re: \compressMusic \grace note woes...

[Trent Johnston]

Yes it's me again...

Still find this tricky... Looks like the grace note problem with beginning a
score with a tuplet is also a problem with using \compressMusic....

I've put in the blank grace notes in the other parts but it doesn't seem to
help..

Any help or hints appreciated yet again.

Trent...

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% Created on Thu Sep 29 10:03:17 EST 2005
\version "2.7.10"
\header {
}
#(set-global-staff-size 16)

\include "english.ly"

\paper {
 bottommargin = 3\cm
 linewidth = 7.12 \in

}

FluteIb = \new Staff  {
 \time 4/4
 \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(12 . 8)
 \set Staff.midiInstrument="flute"
 \key bf \major
 \clef treble
 \relative c''
 \compressMusic #'(2 . 3) {
%bar 1
\grace d8 c8.( b16) c8 g'4 ef8 \grace d8 c8.( b16) c8 r r af
%bar 2
g4 af'8 g4 f8 ef( d) c r8 r4
%bar 3
R1*12/8
%bar 4
r4. r4. r4 r8 r8 r8 g'
%bar 5
\grace { g16([ a] } bf4) c,8 c8. d16 e8 \grace g8 f( e) f r r af
\bar "|."
}}
FluteIIb = \new Staff  {
 \time 4/4
 \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(12 . 8)
 \set Staff.midiInstrument="flute"
 \key bf \major
 \clef treble
 \relative c''
 \compressMusic #'(2 . 3) {

%bar 1-2
\grace s8 R1*12/8*2
%bar 3
\grace d8 c8.( b16) c8 g'4 ef8 \grace d c8.( b16) c8 r r af
%bar 4
g4 af'8 g4 f8 ef( d) c r8 r4
%bar 5
e4. g c, r4 r8
\bar "|."
} }
Contb = \new Staff  {
 \time 4/4
 \set Staff.midiInstrument="cello"
 \key bf \major
 \clef bass
 \relative c' {
%bar 1
\grace s8 c4 bf af8 g af c,
%bar 2
b8 a b g c d ef d
%bar 3
c4 bf af8 g af c
%bar 4
b8 a b g c d ef c
%bar 5
c'4 bf af8 g af f
\bar "|."
}}



%%MOVEMENT II Largo - Andante
\score {

   \new StaffGroup <<
   \FluteIb
   \FluteIIb
   \Contb >>

 \layout  {    }
}

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Trent Johnston" <address@hidden>
To: "Mats Bengtsson" <address@hidden>
Cc: <address@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: \compressMusic


> Thanks Mats...
>
> I re-read the section about this and found that the only reference to
\times
> was
>
> "The latter is done with \compressMusic, which is similar to \times, but
> does not create a tuplet bracket."
>
>
> To me this doesn't describe very accurately that you use \compressMusic
the
> same way as \times but more that it's function output is similar to \times
> but no bracket or tuplet number is created. I think the phrase 'similar
to'
> is the problem and may it should be changed to:
>
> "The latter is done with \compressMusic, which is entered similar to
\times,
> but does not create a tuplet bracket."
>
> Even your reply to me makes more sense of the use of the function
>
> \compressMusic works the same way as \times, i.e. that it only applies to
> the music expression after the first argument. In other words, you have to
> enclose all the music into curly braces.
>
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Trent
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> From: "Mats Bengtsson" <address@hidden>
> To: "Trent Johnston" <address@hidden>
> Cc: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginning a piece with tuplets with a grace note or
> appoggiatura
>
>
> > If you read the manual a bit more carefully, you will notice that
> > \compressMusic works the same way as \times, i.e. that it only
> > applies to the music expression after the first argument.
> > In other words, you have to enclose all the music into curly braces.
> > The simplest solution in your example, is to reuse the already existing
> > curly braces that you have for \relative c':
> >
> >
> > staffFlute = \new Staff  {
> >  \time 4/4
> >  \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(12 . 8)
> >
> >  \set Staff.instrument="Flute"
> >  \set Staff.midiInstrument="flute"
> >  \key bf \major
> >  \clef treble
> >  \relative c'' \compressMusic #'(2 . 3) {
> >
> > %bar 1
> > \grace d8 c8.( b16) c8 g'4 ef8 \grace d8 c8.( b16) c8 r r af
> > %bar 2
> > g4 af'8 g4 f8 ef( d) c r8 r4
> > %bar 3
> > R1.
> > %bar 4
> > r4. r4. r4 r8 r8 r8 g'
> > %bar 5
> > \grace { g16([ a] } bf4) c,8 c8. d16 e8 \grace g8 f( e) f r r af
> > %bar 6
> > g4 e8 c4 bf'8 af( g) f r4 r8
> > %bar 7
> > d4. f4. bf, r4 r8
> > \bar "|."
> >
> >  }
> >
> > }
> >
> > (Note also that the full bar rest should read R1. or R1*12/8 since you
> > are in 12/8.)
> >
> >    /Mats
> >
> > Trent Johnston wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks Mats..
> > >
> > >I had a look but following the example this doesn't seem to produce
> anything
> > >except the  12/8 time signature.
> > >
> > >In fact changing the compress music doesn't seem to have any effect at
> all.
> > >The example from the manual seems to work.. so I can't see what's wrong
> in
> > >the example below...
> > >
> > >Windows XP
> > >Lilypond 2.7.10
> > >
> > >========================
> > >
> > >% Created on Thu Sep 29 15:45:05 EST 2005
> > >\version "2.7"
> > >\header {
> > >}
> > >
> > >\include "english.ly"
> > >
> > >
> > >staffFlute = \new Staff  {
> > > \time 4/4
> > > \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(12 . 8)
> > >        \compressMusic #'(2 . 3)
> > > \set Staff.instrument="Flute"
> > > \set Staff.midiInstrument="flute"
> > > \key bf \major
> > > \clef treble
> > > \relative c'' {
> > >
> > >%bar 1
> > >\grace d8 c8.( b16) c8 g'4 ef8 \grace d8 c8.( b16) c8 r r af
> > >%bar 2
> > >g4 af'8 g4 f8 ef( d) c r8 r4
> > >%bar 3
> > >R1
> > >%bar 4
> > >r4. r4. r4 r8 r8 r8 g'
> > >%bar 5
> > >\grace { g16([ a] } bf4) c,8 c8. d16 e8 \grace g8 f( e) f r r af
> > >%bar 6
> > >g4 e8 c4 bf'8 af( g) f r4 r8
> > >%bar 7
> > >d4. f4. bf, r4 r8
> > >\bar "|."
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > >}
> > >
> > >
> > >\score {
> > > <<
> > >  \staffFlute
> > > >>
> > >
> > > \midi {
> > > }
> > >
> > > \layout  {
> > > }
> > >}
> > >
> > >\paper {
> > >}
> > >
> > >========================
> > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > >From: "Mats Bengtsson" <address@hidden>
> > >To: "Trent Johnston" <address@hidden>
> > >Cc: <address@hidden>
> > >Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:26 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Beginning a piece with tuplets with a grace note or
> > >appoggiatura
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>In addition to Erik's answer, you may want to take a look at
> > >>section "8.4.1 Polymetric notation" in the manual.
> > >>
> > >>  /Mats
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Trent Johnston wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Hello again,
> > >>>
> > >>>I'm currently typesetting a trio sonata by Locatelli...
> > >>>
> > >>>In one movement the the two flutes are in 12/8 time while the
Continuo
> > >>>part is in Common time.
> > >>>
> > >>>This is ok I thought I can set the flute parts in tuplets and
> > >>>fake 12/8 time-signature at the beginning... since essentially this
is
> > >>>what the composer is doing setting the time signature as 12/8 so the
> > >>>players wouldn't be overwhelmed with triplets everywhere.
> > >>>
> > >>>But there is a problem with beginning the first note of the system
> > >>>with either a grace note or appoggiatura. I get the first bar with
the
> > >>>grace or appogiatura but then there seems to be a restart of the
> > >>>systems and the resest of the music continues.
> > >>>
> > >>>I get the same problem if change the notes to triplet groups as well
> > >>>i.e. \times 2/3 {       } etc.
> > >>>
> > >>>Platform: Windows XP
> > >>>Lilypond Version: 2.7.10
> > >>>
> > >>>Is this a bug? or Is there something I need to do?
> > >>>
> > >>>Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>>Trent
> > >>>
> > >>>The code is here...
> > >>>
> > >>>==================================
> > >>>
> > >>>% Created on Thu Sep 29 18:19:46 EST 2005
> > >>>\version "2.7"
> > >>>tsMarkup = \markup { \override #'(baseline-skip . 0) \number
> > >>>{\center-align { "12" "8" } } }
> > >>>\header {
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>>\include "english.ly"
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>staffFlute = \new Staff  {
> > >>> \time 4/4
> > >>> \set Staff.instrument="Flute"
> > >>> \set Staff.midiInstrument="flute"
> > >>> \key bf \major
> > >>> \clef treble
> > >>> \relative c'' {
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>%bar 1
> > >>>\appoggiatura d8 \times 8/12 { c8.( b16) c8 g'4 ef8 \appoggiatura d
> > >>>c8.( b16) c8 r8 r af }
> > >>>%bar 2
> > >>>\times 8/12 { g4 af'8 g4 f8 ef( d) c r8 r4 }
> > >>>%bar 3
> > >>>R1
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> \bar "|."
> > >>> }
> > >>>
> > >>>}
> > >>>staffFluteII = \new Staff  {
> > >>> \time 4/4
> > >>> \set Staff.instrument="Flute"
> > >>> \set Staff.midiInstrument="flute"
> > >>> \key bf \major
> > >>> \clef treble
> > >>> \relative c'' {
> > >>>bar 1-2
> > >>>R1*2
> > >>>%bar 3
> > >>>\times 8/12 { \appoggiatura d8 c8.( b16) c8 g'4 ef8 \appoggiatura d
> > >>>c8.( b16) c8 r8 r af }
> > >>>
> > >>> \bar "|."
> > >>> }
> > >>>
> > >>>}
> > >>>staffCello = \new Staff  {
> > >>> \time 4/4
> > >>> \set Staff.instrument="Cello"
> > >>> \set Staff.midiInstrument="cello"
> > >>> \key bf \major
> > >>> \clef bass
> > >>> \relative c' {
> > >>>%bar 1
> > >>>c4 bf af8 g af c,
> > >>>%bar 2
> > >>>b8 a b g c d ef d
> > >>>%bar 3
> > >>>c4 bf af8 g af c
> > >>> \bar "|."
> > >>> }
> > >>>
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>\score {
> > >>> <<
> > >>>
> > >>>  \staffFlute
> > >>>  \staffFluteII
> > >>>  \staffCello
> > >>> >>
> > >>>
> > >>> \midi {
> > >>> }
> > >>>
> > >>> \layout  {
> > >>> }
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>>\paper {
> > >>>}
> > >>>
> > >>>====================================
> > >>>
> >
>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>-- 
> > >>=============================================
> > >>Mats Bengtsson
> > >>Signal Processing
> > >>Signals, Sensors and Systems
> > >>Royal Institute of Technology
> > >>SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
> > >>Sweden
> > >>Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463
> > >>        Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
> > >>Email: address@hidden
> > >>WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe
> > >>=============================================
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > -- 
> > =============================================
> > Mats Bengtsson
> > Signal Processing
> > Signals, Sensors and Systems
> > Royal Institute of Technology
> > SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
> > Sweden
> > Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463
> >         Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
> > Email: address@hidden
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> >
> >
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