Re: Little problem with lilypond (Modified by Maurits Lamers)

[maurits]

That probably is it. I think it also has to do with my approach of lyrics as a
choir singer. I think of lyrics belonging to a staff or to a melody. Since a
Voice context is part of the Staff context, I assume that the lyrics belonging
to that voice need to belong to the Staff too. Musically they are a part of one
staff. So it probably is a diffence in the technical / programming approach and
the musical approach.

I will check later if this is indeed the solution.

Thanks anyway :)

greets

Maurits

Citeren Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden>:

> Maybe it's a problem with terminology. A Staff context corresponds
> to what's printed on one stave of the score, i.e. it can basically
> just contain voices of music. Between the staves, you can have one
> or more lines of lyrics, which are handled by the Lyrics contexts,
> but they are not part of the Staff itself.
>
> It's a long time since I read this part of the documentation, but
> I don't really understand how you can get the impression that
> you could have lyrics withing a Staff context.
>
>      /Mats
>
> Maurits Lamers wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I tried that, without any success. It doesn't seem to matter where or
> > when I declare the lyrics context, it just fails.
> >
> > my code looks now like this:
> >
> > \new ChoirStaff {
> > <<
> >     \new Staff {
> >          \notes \relative c' {
> >          \key g \major
> >             \context Lyrics = stemeenlyrics { s1 }
> >             \context Voice = melodietwee \relative c' {
> >                  s4 | s 2.*15 | s2
> >
> >                  d4 | g g8 a g fis | e4 e e | a4 a8 b a g | fis4 d d |
> > b'4 b8 c b a  |
> >                 g4 e d8 d | e4 a fis | g2 d4 | g g g | fis2 fis4 | g fis
> > e | d2 a'4  |
> >                 b4 a8 a g g | d'4 d, d8 d | e4 a fis | b g c | a d b
> >                  }
> >           \lyricsto "melodietwee" \context Lyrics = stemeenlyrics {
> >              We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
> >              mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
> >              and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you
> > and your  kin.
> >              We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new
> > year.
> >              }
> >          }
> >
> >     }
> >
> >
> >     \new Staff {
> >         \notes \relative c'{
> >             \key g \major
> >             \context Lyrics = stemtweelyrics { s1 }
> >             \context Voice = stemtwee \relative c' {
> >                 s4 | s 2.*15 | s2
> >
> >                 d4 | g, b d | e e8 d c b | a4 c e | fis fis8 e d c | b4
> > d fis |
> >                 g g8 fis e d | c4 a d | g,2 d'4 | g,8 a b c d e | fis4.
> > e8 d4 |
> >                 b2 cis4 | d2 a'4 | b a g | d' d, d | e a fis | b g c | a
> > d b
> >                 }
> >             \lyricsto "stemtwee" \context Lyrics = stemtweelyrics {
> >                 We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
> >                  mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ
> > -- mas
> >                  and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to
> > you and  your kin.
> >                  We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py
> > new year.
> >                 }
> >             }
> >
> >         }
> >
> >  >>
> > }
> >
> > As I read the documentation this should work.
> > I'm getting everything from bar check failed to junking ... event.
> >
> > What goes wrong ??
> >
> > greets..
> >
> > Maurits
> >
> > On 17-okt-04, at 19:08, Ruud van Silfhout wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Maurits,
> >>
> >> I recognized the problem and I knew it had to do with the way you  define
> >> your staffs and your lyrics. So, I rearranged it a little bit and that
> >> works.
> >> The way I read the documentation, the lyrics should be
> >> created outside the staff context. and you defined, as far as I could
> >> see
> >> it,
> >> a Voice context and a lyrics context in a Voice; I'am amazed it worked
> >> anyway in the original situation
> >>
> >> Have fun!
> >> Ruud van Silfhout
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Maurits Lamers" <address@hidden>
> >> To: <address@hidden>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:48 PM
> >> Subject: Little problem with lilypond (Modified by Maurits Lamers)
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I run into a problem setting music for choir.
> >>> I searched all archives, all wiki pages but nothing turned up.
> >>>
> >>> When you are setting music for choir, you sometimes have a first part
> >>> that is for one voice only and repeated a few times (due to multiple
> >>> verses).
> >>> After that the verse is repeated, but this time with an extra voice
> >>> written to it.
> >>>
> >>> The setting of the music is not a problem, but when you are trying to
> >>> add lyrics there occurs something strange.
> >>>
> >>> The song in question is "We wish you a merry Christmas". I wrote a
> >>> simple second voice to the last verse.
> >>> Setting the music in lilypond was not difficult, so was setting the
> >>> lyrics for the first three verses.
> >>>
> >>> I used a \new Staff to set those first three verses.
> >>>
> >>> To set the last verse, I used a new Choirstaff. Inside this Choirstaff
> >>> I define two new staves.
> >>> Because every voice in every staff has its own lyrics, I define the
> >>> lyrics in each staff.
> >>>
> >>> What happens is this: If you use the code as showed below, a new staff
> >>> is created without a key signature and the lyrics are aligned
> >>> correctly, namely directly below the notes to which the lyrics belong
> >>> to.
> >>>
> >>> If you include the key signature ( \key g \major ) (like in the second
> >>> staff definition) the lyrics are misplaced, namely under the second
> >>> staff
> >>>
> >>> I included both versions, namely with key signature definition and
> >>> without. I include both the .ly files.
> >>> You can also find all files at http://www2.hku.nl/~maurits/lilypond/
> >>>
> >>> The files with lyricsgoed are with the lyrics aligned correctly.
> >>> The files with lyricsverkeerd are with the key signature and with the
> >>> misplaced lyrics.
> >>>
> >>> I use Lilypond 2.2.5 for Mac OS X and PC and both render the same kind
> >>> of problem.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone recognize this problem ??
> >>>
> >>> greets
> >>>
> >>> Maurits Lamers
> >>>
> >>> \new ChoirStaff {
> >>> <<
> >>> \new Staff {
> >>> \notes \relative c' {
> >>> \new Voice {
> >>>   <<
> >>>   \context Voice = melodietwee \relative c' {
> >>>   s4 | s 2.*15 | s2
> >>>
> >>>   d4 | g g8 a g fis | e4 e e | a4 a8 b a g | fis4 d d | b'4 b8 c b a
> >>> |
> >>> g4 e d8 d | e4 a fis | g2 d4 | g g g | fis2 fis4 | g fis e | d2 a'4
> >>> |
> >>> b4 a8 a g g | d'4 d, d8 d | e4 a fis | b g c | a d b
> >>>   }
> >>>
> >>>   \lyrics \lyricsto "melodietwee" \new Lyrics {
> >>>   We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
> >>>   mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
> >>>   and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you and
> >>> your kin.
> >>>   We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new year.
> >>>   }
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>   }
> >>>
> >>> }
> >>> }
> >>> \new Staff {
> >>> \notes \relative c'{
> >>> \key g \major
> >>> \new Voice {
> >>> <<
> >>> \context Voice = stemtwee \relative c' {
> >>> s4 | s 2.*15 | s2
> >>>
> >>> d4 | g, b d | e e8 d c b | a4 c e | fis fis8 e d c | b4 d fis |
> >>> g g8 fis e d | c4 a d | g,2 d'4 | g,8 a b c d e | fis4. e8 d4 |
> >>> b2 cis4 | d2 a'4 | b a g | d' d, d | e a fis | b g c | a d b
> >>> }
> >>> \lyrics \lyricsto "stemtwee" \new Lyrics {
> >>> We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
> >>>   mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
> >>>   and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you and
> >>> your kin.
> >>>   We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new year.
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>> }
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -----
> >> ----
> >>
> >>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> lilypond-user mailing list
> >>> address@hidden
> >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
> >>>
> >>
> >>   \new ChoirStaff {
> >> <<
> >>   \new Staff {
> >>     \context Voice = melodietwee \notes \relative c' {
> >>     \key g \major \time 3/4 \partial 4 s4 | s 2.*15 | s2
> >>     d4 | g g8 a g fis | e4 e e | a4 a8 b a g | fis4 d d | b'4 b8 c b a  |
> >>     g4 e d8 d | e4 a fis | g2 d4 | g g g | fis2 fis4 | g fis e | d2
> >> a'4 |
> >>     b4 a8 a g g | d'4 d, d8 d | e4 a fis | b g c | a d b
> >>     }
> >>   }
> >>     \lyrics \lyricsto "melodietwee" \new Lyrics {
> >>     We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
> >>     mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
> >>     and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you and   your
> >> kin.
> >>     We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new year.
> >>     }
> >>   \new Staff {
> >>     \context Voice = stemtwee \notes \relative c' {
> >>       \key g \major \time 3/4 \partial 4 s4 | s 2.*15 | s2
> >>       d4 | g, b d | e e8 d c b | a4 c e | fis fis8 e d c | b4 d fis |
> >>       g g8 fis e d | c4 a d | g,2 d'4 | g,8 a b c d e | fis4. e8 d4 |
> >>       b2 cis4 | d2 a'4 | b a g | d' d, d | e a fis | b g c | a d b
> >>     }
> >>
> >>   }
> >>   \lyrics \lyricsto "stemtwee" \new Lyrics {
> >>       We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a
> >>       mer -- ry Christ -- mas, we wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas
> >>       and a hap -- py new year. Glad ti -- dings we bring to you and
> >> your
> >> kin.
> >>       We wish you a mer -- ry Christ -- mas and a hap -- py new year.
> >>     }
> >>
> >>>>
> >> }
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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