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Re: Improve internal chord structure


From: Renato Fabbri
Subject: Re: Improve internal chord structure
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 07:05:43 -0300

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM, David Kastrup <address@hidden> wrote:

> address@hidden writes:
>
> >>>> I hope to send something more specifically about chords after some
> rest.
> >>>
> >>> Here are my 2cents:
> >>> Defining the chords by a list of notes for jazz tunes can't  ever
> >>> cover all sorts of voicings.
> >>
> >> Are you confusing "pitch" and "note" here?  Notes are a LilyPond data
> >> structure that have more properties than just a pitch.  Several are
> >> already used for disambiguating chords entered in chord mode.
> >
> > Very likely, i don't know much of the lilypond internals.
> >
> >>> Fortunately, this isn't at all needed for typesetting e.g. a
> >>> jazz-tune.  It is sufficient to only have the root note, e.g. C from
> >>> C:m7, in a musical/transposeable context, the rest of the chord(here
> >>> m7) could just be represented as text as-it-is.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe, from this point of view, there could be an alternative method
> >>> for typestting chords be implemented?
> >>
> >> I don't see what you are trying to achieve here.
> >
> > English is not my native language, but i try:
> > I wanted to point out, that the idea to get e.g.
> > c' e' g' a' from the chord c:6 is not really correct/complete and not
> > of much use, for various reasons:
> > -unclear in which octave
> > -unclear which voicing
> > -Not all pitches needed to be there(may be too much/dense) to make the
> > chord clear
> > -c' e' g' a' could be interpreded as chord a:m7
>
> Please take a look at
>
>
>
> You'll find that the same notes can already be distinguished as either
> chord/inversion.
>
> One question certainly is whether the information we use for that is a
> good fit and whether it should be easier to create this kind of
> information outside of \chordmode .
>

How would one create this information outside \chordmode?


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