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Re: Microtonal accidentals
From: |
Hans Aberg |
Subject: |
Re: Microtonal accidentals |
Date: |
Fri, 8 Nov 2013 20:16:20 +0100 |
On 8 Nov 2013, at 19:10, Keith OHara <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 01:30:02 -0800, Hans Aberg <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:47, Keith OHara <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 13:26:04 -0800, Hans Aberg <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 7 Nov 2013, at 21:47, Keith OHara <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans, I am late, but can I persuade you to try this with sharp and flat
>>>>> representing 4 tone-steps rather than 5 ?
>>>>
>> It is not possible to do that with current LilyPond;
>> Graham Breed retuned the fifth in his regular.ly, so ....
>
> Well, neither LilyPond nor Graham will object if we adjust the naming
> convention
> (as attached and at http://k-ohara.oco.net/Lilypond/).
>
> With 53 steps, there is an interval very close to how a violinist would play
> D F# in traditional notation. If you choose the sharp to represent 4/53 of
> an octave, then 53-step notation also shows this interval as D F#.
>
> Then the glyph to show the fifth B F#' would get an arrow indicating that it
> is larger by a comma; the M-m=5 alteration would use the symbol
> sharp.uparrow. I find this convention uses fewer arrows to represent real
> music.
Graham retunes the LilyPond scale degrees 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 so that they now refer
to E53. Then all values refer to these, also when you transpose. So you can
choose a different naming if you so like, and then check what happens.
Indeed, this is the case with the Turkish Arel-Ezgi-Uzdilek makam notation
system, which sets a sharp to 4 E53 commas. When you write the other key
signatures, then instead of a sharp, you get a microtonal sharps. It does not
matter if you do not transpose.
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, (continued)
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/03
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/11/03
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/03
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2013/11/03
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/03
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Keith OHara, 2013/11/07
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/07
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Keith OHara, 2013/11/07
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/08
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Keith OHara, 2013/11/08
- Re: Microtonal accidentals,
Hans Aberg <=
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- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/03
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/04
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Graham Breed, 2013/11/03
- Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/03
Re: Microtonal accidentals, Keith OHara, 2013/11/07
Re: Microtonal accidentals, Hans Aberg, 2013/11/28