Re: follow-up to report 22

[Reinhold Kainhofer]

Am Donnerstag, 4. November 2010, um 21:56:24 schrieb Valentin Villenave:
> > 2) Agree that an OSS project can, in theory, have a private
> > mailing list.  And apologize.
> 
> *sigh* I do apologize if you felt offended (which you obviously do).
> However, I can assure you that my goal is not to make you feel that
> way.
> Please also note that, whilst I may on occasion feel like there's a
> lack of respect towards some people in the community, I am constantly
> taking into account the fact that I am probably overly sensitive, and
> thus I haven't been demanding any apology or whatever.
[...] 
> (OK, non-grumpy version now.) Have you read my last comment? What I
> take issue with is not the fact that private MLs exist, but the fact
> that, in the LilyPond project, nobody has ever bothered telling people
> about it. (At least, from where I'm standing.)

I'm actually a member of that list, but I wasn't even aware of it (well, I now 
remember that I joined it a while ago, but have since forgotten it 
completely). So I don't think that any ill-will is involved or anything. I 
would rather think that nobody was thinking about that hacker list, since it 
is so low traffic (e.g. 2010 has 4 messages in 1 thread, 2008 has 11 messages 
in 2 threads). 

The archives show that in 2010 only September had some messages (4 mails to 
the list), which are all titled "lilypond-hackers revival"...

And before that, in October/November 2009 there were some mails about how to 
handle someone, who back then didn't really show proper behavior. Such things 
should IMO not be part of a public mailing list, as they are really sensitive 
topics and might harm a person's reputation if they are available for the 
whole world to read in Google etc.

The existence of such a list only becomes relevant (and one only remembers it) 
when there is a sensitive topic to be discussed, which should not be available 
for the whole public to be misunderstood. See also Graham's explanation in 
http://www.mail-archive.com/address@hidden/msg30917.html

Cheers,
Reinhold

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