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From: | Alexander Kobel |
Subject: | Re: Patch: issue #659 |
Date: | Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:14:39 +0100 |
User-agent: | Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) |
Marc Hohl wrote:
Alexander Kobel schrieb:Me, too. It still feels somewhat clumsy to do it in this way, but on the other hand - if it looks alright,Marc Hohl wrote:Trevor Daniels schrieb:Would it make sense to provide another varsegno symbol which looks exactly as the one I have drawn, but has no positive witdh (to the right of the center)?It is easy for a user to move the sign to the end of the staff lines with \once \override Score.BarLine #'extra-offset = #'(1 . 0) \once \override Score.SpanBar #'extra-offset = #'(1 . 0) [...]This sounds more elegant than the tweak above, but I'm not sure if this alone is worth the effort of an additional symbol.one more sign in the font should not be a big problem.
I just noticed that the 'extra-offset won't influence the spacing of the notes before the bar line. The better property to tweak should be the right-edge extra space, but this does not work if the line ends prematurely. (See the attached example.) Still, like Trevor I'm not sure why modifying the X-extent does not work - this should be the favourite option, theoretically equivalent to another glyph without positive width, right?
Another idea: Is it possible to have a double bar line at the end of a line, and the segno bar line at the beginning of the next? What about ".S" doing this, as opposed to "S", or have an additional "||S" and "S||"?I must admit that I don't have lots of references for this symbol and its use. If this is a sensible default, there is no problem in defining ".S" just doing what you proposed. Can you do some investigations? As you posted the examples in the tracker, I think you are the most important source of informations here ;-)
I don't really know if I saw the "||-before-break, S-after-break" combination, but I think it makes sense to offer it since coda parts are often seperated by double bar lines when the "default" segno sign is above them. I'll see what I can find in real examples. I don't think I have anything more at my place, though, so I'll have to look through the repertoire of my choir. (Again, I can't remember to have it seen in any non-Bosworth & Co. scores...) I'll give you feedback ASAP.
Cheers, Alexander
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