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RE: Problem with \partial


From: Anthony Youngman
Subject: RE: Problem with \partial
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:43:44 +0100

I'd vote for tweakBarLength. That makes a lot of sense, and having a
choice of that or partial means that people can use what works for them.

For example, I'm used to thinking of "the first bar" as being where the
music starts. If you use \partial, that becomes the nought-th bar.

That said, isn't it easier for the software (and more intuitive to the
music writer) to have tweakBarPosition, not tweakBarLength? So with 4/4
and three crotchet upbeats you'd say "\tweakBarPosition 4" to place
yourself one crotchet into the bar...

But that then feels odd at the end of a section - whatever you do you
can't win. As I say, I'm looking forward to experimenting with

\timesig 4/4
\partial 2 f2 | g \bar "||" a | b ...

I've met stuff like that, but I expect lily'll be okay ...

Cheers,
Wol

-----Original Message-----
From:
address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden
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Sent: 06 July 2006 08:10
To: Graham Percival
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: Problem with \partial

On Wednesday 05 July 2006 17:54, Graham Percival wrote:
> Erik Sandberg wrote:
> > Perhpaps \partial should be renamed to \upbeat or similar, in order
to
> > prevent this kind of confusion? (\partial only indicates that a bar
is
> > shortened, while \upbeat indicates that the command only is relevant
for
> > upbeats)
>
> So what happens here?
>
> \noTimeSignature
> c4 c c c | d d d d \upbeat 4 d | c c c c
>
> IMO, \partial is just fine.  If there's some confusion, by all means
we
> can clarify the docs.  As always, I gratefully accept any specific
> recommendations for doc changes.

IMHO using \partial in the middle of a bar is confusing; I think there
should 
be some other command that sets the length of an individual bar. Do you
think 
it would make sense to invent such a command?

I think I can implement one of the following commands:
\tweakBarLength s4*5: Set the remaining length of the current bar to 5/4
\oneBar {d d d d d}: output the notes and makes sure the bar is ended
after 
the last one.

-- 
Erik


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