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"Knut Petersen" address@hidden writes:
Ah, but one thing I thought I should mention: it occured to me if we
made minimum-width obey its standard-behavior known from elsewhere (ok,
elsewhere one needs to set some spacing-rods property in addition but
probably noone will notice), we would require no forced-width in
Implementing a proper minimum width would help to solve some old
issues ... but I think I remember someone called it a feature ... I
have to think about the topic.
And the particular use case of Trevor, namely setting it to zero, should
work out just the same as before, shouldn't it?
Well, except where the results would be an ugly flyspeck. Those would
likely fall under collapse-width. Sounds more like a feature than a
problem to me.
[issues:#4509] Enhancement: automatically engrave lyric extenders
Created: Sat Jul 18, 2015 03:23 AM UTC by Anonymous
Last Updated: Tue Jan 31, 2017 06:58 PM UTC
Owner: Alexander Kobel
Originally created by: *anonymous
Originally created by: address@hidden
Actually, this is a content vs. presentation issue. The current approach has lyric extenders ‘hardcoded’ within the lyricmode input, whereas often it depends on layout whether I want an extender printed or not:
– In tight horizontal spacing, we might not need an extender, but when spacing is stretched, it might become necessary. This can come through different (page/line) breaking, parallel contexts present only in some editions (part vs. score), Completion_heads_engraver (mensural without barlines/transcription with barlines).
– Long syllables might not need an extender, where short syllables do.
– Often, all voices share the same text, but have extenders in different places. If extenders need not be given explicitly, the lyricmode input code can be reused much easier.
After all, the extenders don’t add any additional meaning, but only serve to improve legibility in such cases where they do.
This would require:
– Recognising the end of a word by absence of a hyphen.
– Comparing printed length of the melisma notes vs. the syllable, likely after line breaking. After all, extenders will never influence horizontal spacing. They might, however, affect vertical spacing. (unless we chose to omit (or shift) the extender in that case?)
– Personally, I think very short extenders shouldn’t be printed. There should be some kind of threshold.
It’s also one of the usecases where a proper representation of a ‘lyric word’ would be helpful, along with issue 2458.
Version 2.12 had this listed as a Known issue.
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