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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story
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Aaron Wolf |
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story |
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Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:56:06 -0700 |
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> Looking beyond software, The Free Culture movement associated with
> Lawrence Lessig prides itself on having created an ecosystem where
> people can decide what freedom means to them and use any Creative
> Commons licence (including non-libre licences such as those with NC
> and ND terms).
>
I do not know of any such movement that has pride in being completely
vague about licensing this way. Creative Commons simply didn't take a
stand about these things when making multiple licenses. There's no such
movement that is proud of this.
> The "Libre culture movement" is the sub-set which defines freedom in
> the same way as it is defined for free / libre software:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libre_culture
>
> Ironically, the Libre knowledge article has been nominated for
> deletion. So take a read soon in case it is:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libre_knowledge
>
> K
Well, the strongest thing is actually "free culture" here as in
http://freedomdefined.org
>
> PS Regarding "open" - too many MOOCs and other resources labelled
> "open" which are anything but libre.
>
>
> On 17 March 2015 at 21:22, Aaron Wolf <wolftune@riseup.net> wrote:
>> "Freedom software" is acceptable enough… indeed "free software" is
>> broken in that you can't even search for it reliably because of the
>> confusion over the term.
>>
>> Here's my take: https://snowdrift.coop/p/snowdrift/w/en/free-libre-open
>>
>> I think "libre" is the best overall word, but that the continued
>> existence of competing terms means we should embrace them all — as long
>> as we're clear that we're not doing so to be neutral, that we stand for
>> the ethical values of software freedom and not merely the "Open Source"
>> values of code-development processes.
>>
>> On 03/17/2015 12:13 PM, Patrick Anderson wrote:
>>>> It boggles my mind that
>>>> these simple and so important ideas about software and freedom, which are
>>>> so
>>>> obvious to me, are so far out of the reach of so many people.
>>>
>>> It boggles my mind that we refuse to acknowledge most people *already*
>>> understand the term "Free Software" to mean "Freeware".
>>>
>>> Why are we so damn stubborn about such an unimportant detail that
>>> almost instantaneously causes nearly universal confusion?
>>>
>>> Why not coin a new term to overcome that simple hurdle?
>>>
>>> I propose the term "Freedom Software". It is more descriptive
>>> and will likely even create a certain amount of curiosity.
>>>
>>> As it is, we are trying to call a rose a cabbage and wondering
>>> why nobody gets it...
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Patrick Anderson
>>> Economic Systems Engineer
>>> http://CrossCrowdPredictiveProduction.github.io
>>>
>>
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story, (continued)
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story, Aaron Wolf, 2015/03/18
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story, rysiek, 2015/03/18
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- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story, rysiek, 2015/03/18
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story, Aaron Wolf, 2015/03/18
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- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story, Will Hill, 2015/03/18
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Amusing Free Software Story, Kim Tucker, 2015/03/18
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