Re: Gnus and new mail notification

[Thierry Volpiatto]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@users.sf.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 00:19:42 +0100, Richard Riley wrote:
>>>>>>>> As soon as you use splitting or virtual groups, an external process
>>>>>>>> becomes useless (for instance, I have several rules that split messages
>>>>>>>> into groups that I ignore).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not if you dont use the demon and then split when you hit g. In other
>>>>>>> words you only fetch your mail when gnubiff or something similar tells
>>>>>>> you that you have new mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Concrete example: if splitting includes spam rules, gnubiff will notify
>>>>>> you of spam too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes that is most certainly true. Since I use googlemail I'm kind of
>>>>> spoiled as their spam filtering server side is pretty good these days
>>>>> (that and my spam-split set up doesnt work anymore on NoGnus) and so I
>>>>> turned off client side "spam-split"ting.
>>>>
>>>> If you use gmail, you can have easy mail notification with:
>>>>
>>>> https://mail.google.com/mail/feed/atom
>>>>
>>>> It give you an xml buffer you have to parse.
>>>>
>>>> A library exists on emacswiki for this, don't remember the name, it
>>>> didn't work for me so i wrote small code for this for my personal use, i
>>>> can send it if interested.
>>>> Of course if one use gnus-demon, it's non--sense to use this.
>>>
>>> Just as an FYI to the OP if new to Gnus, I have found the best set up
>>> for me with Gnus is dovecot locally fed by offlineimap which is run as a
>>> cron job every half hour or so.
>> I use here offlineimap.el that is started each time i start gnus.
>> http://julien.danjou.info/offlineimap-el.html
>> I think that coupled with a gmail notification is better than a
>> cronjob.
>
> I dont think it is since the benefit of my way is I dont need gnus
> running to see email notifications.
Me too ;-) See above

Gnus is stopped.

1) I call async https://mail.google.com/mail/feed/atom every five
minutes.

2) When i am notified of a new email, i run Gnus who run offlineimap.

> Emacs/Gnus just dont do "async" well
> and for me its not its job to run offlineimap which isnt necessarily the
> quickest anyway. Still horses for courses and an interesting mix of
> approaches ;)

>>
>>> nnir search works really well and of
>>> course there are then no performance or bandwidth issues with Gnus
>>> talking imap with remote gmail servers. Plus you have a local copy of
>>> your mail. Here is one "how to" for the set up:
>>>
>>> http://sachachua.com/blog/2008/05/geek-how-to-use-offlineimap-and-the-dovecot-mail-server-to-read-your-gmail-in-emacs-efficiently/
>>> http://tinyurl.com/26cwmok
>>
>> I have also started to use dovecot/offlineimap, however it's was not so
>> easy to configure dovecot, especially the mail_location, what is
>> described in sacha blog is deprecated.
>>
>> So here i use for gmail:
>> ,----[ dovecot config ]
>> | mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=~/Maildir/INBOX
>> `----
>> Hope that's help
>
> I use multiple virtual users to handle my different gmail accounts. I
> can share the set up if anyone is interested.

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