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[Help-smalltalk] Are Objects really hard?
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Janko Mivšek |
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[Help-smalltalk] Are Objects really hard? |
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Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:21:55 +0100 |
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Hi guys,
Again one interesting topic for this weekend to discuss. David Nolen, a
Lisp and JavaScript guy posted in his blog an article titled Illiterate
Programming [1] where he said:
"...Yet I think Smalltalk still fundamentally failed (remember this is a
programming language originally designed to scale from children to
adults) because *Objects are really hard* and no-one really understands
to this day how to do them right...."
He links to Alan Kay post [2] back in 1998 where he talks about problems
with inheritance:
"Here are a few problems in the naive inheritance systems we use today:
confusions of Taxonomy and Parentage, of Specialization and Refinement,
of Parts and Wholes, of Semantics and Pragmatics..."
Let we concentrate on broader "Objects are really hard and no-one really
understands to this day how to do them right" claim and not merely
inheritance, please.
Best regards
Janko
[1] http://dosync.posterous.com/illiterate-programming
[2]
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/1998-April/009261.html
--
Janko Mivšek
Aida/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si
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