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Re: Problem installing packages


From: Art Edwards
Subject: Re: Problem installing packages
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:32:50 -0600
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On 05/28/2012 01:13 PM, Rich Mack wrote:
I don't think Jordi was advocating anything, but only explaining what works and what doesn't work.  pkg install at the Octave CLI doesn't work.  Apt-get install octave-packagename works.

Olaf, do you know how to install packages at the Octave CLI with root permissions?


From: Olaf Till <address@hidden>
To: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <address@hidden>
Cc: ramack <address@hidden>; address@hidden
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Problem installing packages

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:11:36AM -0400, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> On 24 May 2012 10:08, ramack <address@hidden> wrote:
> > I am having the same issue installing new packages from the GUI.
>
> There is no GUI yet. If you mean QtOctave, it's abandoned and
> scheduled to be deleted from the repositories.
>
> > My OS is Debian Testing i386
>
> You should not be using pkg install to install OF packages in Debian.
> They are already packaged for Debian with apt. So e.g. instead of
> doing "pkg install signal" from Octave, you should do "aptitude
> install octave-signal" from bash.
>
> In fact, I wish we could stop telling people to use pkg install,
> because it's a very brittle way of getting packages to people.

Jordi,

advocating the use of packaged (Debian) Octave Forge packages is one
thing, but explicitely discouraging 'pkg install' is another. In some
cases the latter could actually mean 'please stick with a buggy
package or a package lacking important features'. Octave Forge
packages are generally in a quite flowing state, there is no 'stable
branch', and I doubt that Debians scheme to stick with some stable
version is thouroughly applicable here, i.e. the chance of getting a
stable package is probably not much higher (I'd guess) with a
Debian-stable pre-packaged version.

And I don't think using the 'pkg install' way is that difficult. While
pre-packaging may help many people, persons with serious interest in
some packages functionality should not be discouraged to use the
native Octave way.

Please don't take this as an insult or as disrespect of Debians
packaging work. But I'm a bit disquiet since I think things are going
to far here.

Olaf

> HTH,
> - Jordi G. H.
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I hope I'm not stepping into an argument I don't understand. I'm running Ubuntu (natty and oneiric), a derivative of Debian. I have been struggling to get the secs1d package to work. I was just successful in oneiric, not yet in natty. I will say that using

pkg install "package.tgz"

works, as long as you sudo into octave (in Debian, as I recall, it is easier simply to su, if you are a super user.) I believe this was crucial in getting the package to work, because I also installed all the dependencies from octave-forge, and I used the addpath command to put the source .m files in the search path. Installing the .debs for these packages was unsuccessful.

Art Edwards

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