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No 'guix pull' substitutes for foreign distros?

From:	Nigko Yerden
Subject:	No 'guix pull' substitutes for foreign distros?
Date:	Tue, 14 May 2024 20:53:05 +0500
User-agent:	Mozilla Thunderbird

Hello Guix!

I have two systems: first (A) is a full Guix system and second (B) is aforeign distribution with Guix package manager installed onto. I havenoticed when I'm performing 'guix pull' system B always build 'guixpull' derivations by itself while system A most often just downloadsubstitutes for them. The latter, of course, is much faster.

Here is how it looks on system B (commit014875b29e68da6357a5323e6dd1eaa74a05b753):


$ guix pull

Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at'https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git'...Authenticating channel 'guix', commits 9edb3f6 to 08360a2 (781 newcommits)...

Building from these channels:
  guix      https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git   08360a2

substitute: updating substitutes from'https://mirrors.sjtug.sjtu.edu.cn/guix'... 100.0%

26,4 MB will be downloaded
....
The following derivations will be built:
  /gnu/store/q9b8yr9452im7mmah1cfk2dpy44y755v-profile.drv
  /gnu/store/87avc5s6q4xq1rdk26cnlviai7hfjzi0-inferior-script.scm.drv
  /gnu/store/saji8f542jbrmj6315lxrgmgjdgrzlx4-guix-08360a2cd.drv
  /gnu/store/3j2xd5l3q0s1jf9798fr4s3k3ky5fw07-guix-manual.drv
  /gnu/store/42bwpkmcv6jsdzhsxc0pwc13k1fgxh25-guix-08360a2cd-modules.drv

/gnu/store/2cl0dr63d900v6406hs10qgjsp7iaysi-guix-packages-base-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/j8av01zjcx9kimjm0yrdrkhmiba7wwmj-guix-packages-base.drv
  /gnu/store/a7w5hbq6kppl90838b3iwpgn4v93jv75-guix-extra.drv
  /gnu/store/gd8lqzj70wx5qgx39lnh3lh4g5slln5g-guix-core-source.drv
  /gnu/store/2f0z0x4nqpwgwmrk5qs7ka0p3y2a2gny-config.scm.drv
  /gnu/store/6r0k3wg5bcjnjdjlx8rvxr2q3izyhgvh-guix-system-tests-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/7pmrsz3mlnhiggm3pz99wiyrddahl9mb-guix-system-tests.drv
  /gnu/store/3jwjfb0rjxsvv4xy0m65db0nmbg56nx7-guix-cli.drv
  /gnu/store/87yna60fdd0gv70nb4svqvxq8br4cbm6-guix-cli-core.drv
  /gnu/store/b28ayyn4jqfz5dbgcshh5gmayzms65wj-guix-system.drv
  /gnu/store/x5x97w98q16myzx3rfik1gs06n1vbccr-guix-packages.drv
  /gnu/store/sxhm9vii5lwig55vjpc4jz639r9ygdyx-guix-home.drv
  /gnu/store/7i2z4b2imjxc0qd5kgis9c045ybq0wwy-guix-system-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/f3qxxs77klhk0q8bvsxdly1xr147wb9s-guix-cli-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/fl6m42fdnykhd5drv42s1zn5x18vbiy9-guix-extra-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/h7ynn7s9p8ywd5s2s4g43l6rgkqdidqd-guix-home-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/i0qnblii1as7yk2pz3vvvfd9mh28fdzv-guix-config-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/m02vi15w4chc27kgrf2x55riacsl20gc-guix-config-source.drv
  /gnu/store/6z80pzmm18nmbmblk9mh2vjl1hvdzm02-config.scm.drv
  /gnu/store/jilxlihmy07h9xhr1pbxw5i01b4l1js1-guix-cli-core-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/ng76j3d6m66w7jfk0gds9204zp4l727p-guix-packages-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/znffqlp69qjbvzpnjvvfmpc4fq6q9b8w-guix-core-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/qxaqgq36bg5mi210yflrg31hz3nxjfb3-guix-command.drv
  /gnu/store/as05nvh2dq4s0pb0lxkmcyf407c7wjcm-guix-module-union.drv
  /gnu/store/qxsz62r8giy0hf8qqzzv8f35g6470kcj-guix-daemon.drv
  /gnu/store/za0rf8ypn7v1a9a7cc7fmnnh7pig5580-guix-misc.drv
  /gnu/store/pf1h4mhpp6qhvixzr4172v81wqy1wj1x-inferior-script.scm.drv
  /gnu/store/3aci63l4yq7i9jh4v55f0lyk3hji8z1w-inferior-script.scm.drv
  /gnu/store/3kjkjx8fayv97p48rgdmi51mlwx6lb7c-profile.drv

3,0 MB will be downloaded

module-import-compiled 128KiB 57KiB/s 00:02▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-config 4KiB 647KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-core 1.8MiB 418KiB/s 00:04▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-translated-texinfo 1.7MiB 971KiB/s 00:02▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%module-import-compiled 8KiB 13KiB/s 00:01▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%module-import-compiled 47KiB 88KiB/s 00:01▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%module-import-compiled 66KiB 20KiB/s 00:03▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%module-import-compiled 97KiB 6KiB/s 00:17▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%module-import-compiled 54KiB 8KiB/s 00:07▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%

building /gnu/store/2f0z0x4nqpwgwmrk5qs7ka0p3y2a2gny-config.scm.drv...
building /gnu/store/6z80pzmm18nmbmblk9mh2vjl1hvdzm02-config.scm.drv...
applying 9 grafts for gd-2.3.2 ...
applying 5 grafts for gts-0.7.6 ...

building/gnu/store/m02vi15w4chc27kgrf2x55riacsl20gc-guix-config-source.drv...

applying 19 grafts for graphviz-minimal-7.0.1 ...

building/gnu/store/i0qnblii1as7yk2pz3vvvfd9mh28fdzv-guix-config-modules.drv...

building /gnu/store/gd8lqzj70wx5qgx39lnh3lh4g5slln5g-guix-core-source.drv...
building /gnu/store/za0rf8ypn7v1a9a7cc7fmnnh7pig5580-guix-misc.drv...

building/gnu/store/znffqlp69qjbvzpnjvvfmpc4fq6q9b8w-guix-core-modules.drv...

building /gnu/store/a7w5hbq6kppl90838b3iwpgn4v93jv75-guix-extra.drv...

building/gnu/store/87avc5s6q4xq1rdk26cnlviai7hfjzi0-inferior-script.scm.drv...building/gnu/store/fl6m42fdnykhd5drv42s1zn5x18vbiy9-guix-extra-modules.drv...building/gnu/store/j8av01zjcx9kimjm0yrdrkhmiba7wwmj-guix-packages-base.drv...building/gnu/store/pf1h4mhpp6qhvixzr4172v81wqy1wj1x-inferior-script.scm.drv...

building /gnu/store/87yna60fdd0gv70nb4svqvxq8br4cbm6-guix-cli-core.drv...

building/gnu/store/2cl0dr63d900v6406hs10qgjsp7iaysi-guix-packages-base-modules.drv...building/gnu/store/jilxlihmy07h9xhr1pbxw5i01b4l1js1-guix-cli-core-modules.drv...

building /gnu/store/x5x97w98q16myzx3rfik1gs06n1vbccr-guix-packages.drv...
applying 3 grafts for libfontenc-1.1.4 ...

building/gnu/store/ng76j3d6m66w7jfk0gds9204zp4l727p-guix-packages-modules.drv...

building /gnu/store/b28ayyn4jqfz5dbgcshh5gmayzms65wj-guix-system.drv...
applying 8 grafts for mkfontscale-1.2.2 ...
building /gnu/store/sxhm9vii5lwig55vjpc4jz639r9ygdyx-guix-home.drv...

building/gnu/store/7i2z4b2imjxc0qd5kgis9c045ybq0wwy-guix-system-modules.drv...

building /gnu/store/3jwjfb0rjxsvv4xy0m65db0nmbg56nx7-guix-cli.drv...

building/gnu/store/h7ynn7s9p8ywd5s2s4g43l6rgkqdidqd-guix-home-modules.drv...

building /gnu/store/f3qxxs77klhk0q8bvsxdly1xr147wb9s-guix-cli-modules.drv...

building/gnu/store/7pmrsz3mlnhiggm3pz99wiyrddahl9mb-guix-system-tests.drv...

applying 2 grafts for mkfontdir-1.0.7 ...

building/gnu/store/6r0k3wg5bcjnjdjlx8rvxr2q3izyhgvh-guix-system-tests-modules.drv...

applying 6 grafts for texinfo-6.8 ...

building/gnu/store/42bwpkmcv6jsdzhsxc0pwc13k1fgxh25-guix-08360a2cd-modules.drv...

building /gnu/store/3j2xd5l3q0s1jf9798fr4s3k3ky5fw07-guix-manual.drv...

building/gnu/store/as05nvh2dq4s0pb0lxkmcyf407c7wjcm-guix-module-union.drv...

building /gnu/store/qxaqgq36bg5mi210yflrg31hz3nxjfb3-guix-command.drv...
building /gnu/store/qxsz62r8giy0hf8qqzzv8f35g6470kcj-guix-daemon.drv...
building /gnu/store/saji8f542jbrmj6315lxrgmgjdgrzlx4-guix-08360a2cd.drv...
building CA certificate bundle...
listing Emacs sub-directories...
building fonts directory...
building directory of Info manuals...
...

And there how it looks on system A (the same commit014875b29e68da6357a5323e6dd1eaa74a05b753):Updating channel 'guix' from Git repository at'https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git'...Authenticating channel 'guix', commits 9edb3f6 to 08360a2 (781 newcommits)...

Building from these channels:
  guix      https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git   08360a2
26,4 MB will be downloaded
...

substitute: updating substitutes from'https://mirrors.sjtug.sjtu.edu.cn/guix'... 100.0%

...
The following derivations will be built:
  /gnu/store/pfs471chzsnwyl3zdkz3wkzl5gpsqchm-profile.drv
  /gnu/store/87avc5s6q4xq1rdk26cnlviai7hfjzi0-inferior-script.scm.drv

/gnu/store/1mwhp5crimgvqd4jmlfsj3017yk8vxsv-guix-packages-base-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/4bay72mqflnhx3382gy5lmcjiv0k673s-guix-system-tests-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/5dsx6hxbrsy8iljmz6sjn08f1c9q5zi9-guix-system-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/j33qgaybzml6fbfldw5nljgq4haxd34f-guix-cli-core-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/rzwb58zr3mnz5pff4v0581nr8bhh4bj5-guix-cli-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/yhv9fr3rzlnk8dmgiwz73rjz6xalip94-guix-extra-modules.drv
  /gnu/store/hmcds0yp3bxl8y8gaf6a42jfipvqgsii-guix-daemon.drv
  /gnu/store/x91k63vwwj6mahn804hjg5n9xzsjj4sn-guix-command.drv
  /gnu/store/pf1h4mhpp6qhvixzr4172v81wqy1wj1x-inferior-script.scm.drv
  /gnu/store/2x3s1sx169y9lk9wdnz8p21c88jr8jkd-profile.drv
  /gnu/store/mkq51lalsi9vy94afskmi92854sx1cxm-inferior-script.scm.drv

70,0 MB will be downloaded

substitute: updating substitutes from'https://mirrors.sjtug.sjtu.edu.cn/guix'... 100.0%

...

module-import-compiled 128KiB 43.7MiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-cli 315KiB 27KiB/s 00:12▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-cli-core 922KiB 21KiB/s 00:44▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-cli-modules 260B 56KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-cli-core-modules 261B 46KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-extra 2.8MiB 10KiB/s 04:45▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-manual 5.2MiB 13KiB/s 06:58▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-extra-modules 260B 61KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%module-import-compiled 66KiB 34KiB/s 00:02▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-packages-base 17.4MiB 777KiB/s 00:23▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-system 7.9MiB 702KiB/s 00:12▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-packages-base-modules 268B 140KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-system-modules 261B 101KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-system-tests 921KiB 368KiB/s 00:03▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%module-import-compiled 54KiB 69KiB/s 00:01▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-system-tests-modules 263B 57KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%building/gnu/store/87avc5s6q4xq1rdk26cnlviai7hfjzi0-inferior-script.scm.drv...

applying 8 grafts for mkfontscale-1.2.2 ...

guix-08360a2cd-modules 31.2MiB 1.9MiB/s 00:17▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%building/gnu/store/pf1h4mhpp6qhvixzr4172v81wqy1wj1x-inferior-script.scm.drv...guix-module-union 2KiB 149KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%

applying 2 grafts for mkfontdir-1.0.7 ...

guix-command 653B 436KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%

applying 6 grafts for texinfo-6.8 ...

guix-daemon 402B 105KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%guix-08360a2cd 800B 94KiB/s 00:00▕██████████████████▏ 100.0%

building CA certificate bundle...
listing Emacs sub-directories...
building fonts directory...
building directory of Info manuals...
...


Shouldn't 'guix pull' substitutes also work on foreign distros?
If they should, why don't sytem B get them?

Regards,
Nigko

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