Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals

[Rusi]

On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 11:16:00 PM UTC+5:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 09:55:47 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rusi 
> > 
> > > Each chapter in the Emacs manual is a short intro to the subject of
> > > that chapter.
> > 
> > There is a fundamental difference between logical and pedagogical order.
> 
> Indeed, it is.  But I don't see the relevance of that to the issue at
> hand.
> 
> > The emacs manual may be logically structured.
> 
> No, it is intended to be pedagogically structured.  If you find
> evidence to the contrary, i.e. style that is typical of academic
> papers, please report that as a bug.
> 
> > Joe Noob has a need that is completely covered in chaps i,(more likely 
> > i,j,k)
> > of the manual. How does he go from his need to chaps i,j,k?
> 
> Via cross-references and menus, of course.  And via index search.
> 
> > Lets say that dired and even better wdired is exactly what he needs. How is 
> > he
> >  going to find that out?
> 
> I would start by typing "i directory TAB", then see "directory
> listing" there, and select it.  And there, lo and behold, I'd see
> this:
> 
>   The file system groups files into "directories".  A "directory listing"
>   is a list of all the files in a directory.  Emacs provides commands to
>   create and delete directories, and to make directory listings in brief
>   format (file names only) and verbose format (sizes, dates, and authors
>   included).  Emacs also includes a directory browser feature called
>   Dired; see *note Dired::.    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   ^^^^^
> 
> Then I'd follow that Dired hyperlink, and in the menu, due to some
> sheer luck (or maybe something else) I'd see this, inter alia:
> 
>   * Wdired::                    Operating on files by editing the Dired 
> buffer.
> 
> and also
> 
>   * Image-Dired::               Viewing image thumbnails in Dired.
> 
> and lots of other interesting and relevant topics.

I just picked the dired/wdired eg at random
And now I look (emacs 24.3.1)

Where-is: wdired-change-to-wdired-mode <Menubar> <Immediate> <Wdired-mode>
But I dont see any Wdired in menu → immediate