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Re: Emacs for email: Rmail v VM v Gnus


From: Richard Riley
Subject: Re: Emacs for email: Rmail v VM v Gnus
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 00:21:13 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux)

James Freer <jessejazza3.uk@gmail.com>
writes:

> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Uday Reddy <usr.vm.rocks@gmail.com> wrote:
>> chad writes:
>>
>>> If you want to use emacs and keep your mail on the server, you
>>> probably want to look into Wanderlust. Gnus can do it also [...]
>>>
>>> If you don't mind moving to keep your email locally, your options
>>> expand quite a bit. In addition to Gnus, you can try rmail, mh-e, and
>>> VM.
>>
>> I would like to correct the impression that VM is a local folder mail
>> client.  Starting with version 8.1.0 (released in March 2010), VM has had
>> full support for IMAP.  Quoting from the release notes for 8.1.0:
>>
>>   MAJOR NEW FEATURES:
>>
>>     * Support for reading and replying to messages in HTML.
>>
>>     * Full support for IMAP servers.  (See "IMPROVEMENTS for
>>       imap-folders".)
>>
>> I should also add that VM is very similar to Rmail in its basic structure,
>> but extends Rmail with full support for MIME and POP/IMAP servers.  It also
>> has a very powerful virtual folder facility.  (VM was in fact the inventor
>> of the "virtual folder" concept).  Virtual folders are extremely useful when
>> you have to deal with large quantities of email, with multiple mail folders
>> etc.
>>
>> You can find the public releases of VM here:
>>
>>   http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/viewmail/
>>
>> and the development versions here:
>>
>>   http://launchpad.net/vm
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Uday
>
> As VM isn't part of gnu-emacs why has Rmail not been developed. There
> was a discussion thread a while back on how emacs could be improved.
> Emacs is "complete working environment" but for email for IMAP and
> virtual folders one has to turn to another app. Xemacs i believe has
> VM installed with it. Why not use Xemacs? well i found it fairly poor
> compared with gnu-emacs [well it doesn't seem to have been compiled
> properly for use on ubuntu somehow.]

gnus, which I have found vastly superior is just about every aspect
other than ease of uptake, is shipped with gnus 24 at least. Actively
developed, large user base, works fine with IMAP, has an offline agent,
queues etc I find it hard to recommend any other emacs mail client.




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