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Re: Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client


From: Dmitri Minaev
Subject: Re: Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:43:46 +0500

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 07 2008, Dmitri Minaev wrote:
>
>  > I found the approach used by Gnus too original and chose Wanderlust.
>
>  What does "too original" mean?

"If you are used to traditional mail readers, but have decided to
switch to reading mail with Gnus, you may find yourself experiencing
something of a culture shock," says the manual, and a shock it was.
"Gnus, by default, handles all its groups using the same approach.
This approach is very newsreaderly--you enter a group, see the
new/unread messages, and when you read the messages, they get marked
as read, and you don't see them any more."  I know that if I forced
myself into using Gnus for a month or two, I would've got used to this
approach, but I found no real reasons to do so. I couldn't find the
mail I needed, then they suddenly sprang up, then my mailbox was full,
then I gave up. I use Gnus as a very good newsreader, the best I know,
but for mail I have tools that suit me better :)

>  Huh?  You don't need any setup with regards to charsets in Gnus at all
>  (at least if you use a current version of Emacs, i.e. Emacs 22).  If
>  some special complicated settings are necessary, please report it as a
>  bug.

It's not a bug. Or, even if it is, it's a conceptual bug of the
Russophone internet. There are three encodings used for Cyrillic
alphabet, besides UTF-8. Some newsgroups require me to use one of them
and some mail recipients want me to send mail in other encodings. My
.gnus file sets 9 variables and calls 1 function to make Gnus work as
I want it to. I confess that this setup was inherited from Emacs 19 or
20, if my memory serves well, but I'm afraid of changing anything :).
In .wl file, the equivalent setup required 4 variables and 1 function
call.

-- 
With best regards,
Dmitri Minaev

Russian history blog: http://minaev.blogspot.com




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