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Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages
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rustom |
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Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages |
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Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:47:45 -0800 (PST) |
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On Nov 18, 9:50 am, Stefan Monnier <monn...@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> > I wish I could have keybindings like vi -- single key-commands for
> > the hand, powerful modes in the head -- the look like eclipse --
> > multiple proportional fonts -- on top of emacs' extensibility.
>
> Tried M-x viper ?
>
> Stefan
The last time I tried it (long time back) it was quite un-vi-like
because multiple ESCs jerked one back into emacs mode.
Things may be different now --dunno -- but one loses any habit in 20
years.
My point was more basic than vi/emacs specific viz.
It may take a few more minutes or hours to learn h-j-k-l as against
the more 'natural' C-p C-n C-f C-b
but with a lifetime of use its a couple of million more keystrokes and
correspondingly worn-out muscles. Programmers tend to forget that the
logical and the ergonomical are different.
Yeah-yeah I know we use the arrow keys today but that only confirms
something that Xah (so tirelessly :-) ) proclaims viz that the emacs
key-bindings are a relic of another keyboard from another era.
Of course emacs is much better on my hands than firefox, ooffice etc
so I am not complaining too much.
PS. If I could go back to school today I would train on a dvorak
keyboard. But returning to the womb is at best an expensive
proposition :-)
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, (continued)
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Juanma Barranquero, 2007/11/14
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- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Stefan Kamphausen, 2007/11/15
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Amy Templeton, 2007/11/15
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, bramble, 2007/11/15
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Tim X, 2007/11/16
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, rustom, 2007/11/16
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2007/11/16
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- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, rustom, 2007/11/16
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2007/11/16
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Stefan Monnier, 2007/11/18
- Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages,
rustom <=
Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Barry Margolin, 2007/11/14
Re: Emacs key bindings through the ages, Xah Lee, 2007/11/15