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Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly
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Alan Mackenzie |
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Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly |
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Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:43:07 +0000 |
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PT <mailshield.gg@mailnull.com> wrote on Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:01:19 +0100:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:16:24 +0100, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Emacs has not shown itself to accommodate systematic corporate
>> involvement well. It will as far as I can see always be dependent on
>> dedicated individuals instead of corporate support, simply because you
>> can't make a business plan involving Emacs development and timelines.
> I see. In that case there really is no obvious benefit of devoting
> development resources to make Emacs more user friendly.
> BTW, it seems in the corporate world Eclipse will fill this space
> instead of Emacs. It's a self described "universal tool platform - an
> open extensible IDE for anything and nothing in particular". When a
> newbie tells me he gave up on Emacs because is to alien I usually tell
> them to use Eclipse instead. And they usually are happy, because it's
> nice, shiny and point-and-clicky. :)
Like David, I've neither seen nor used Eclipse. You describe it as
"point-and-clicky". I cannot use point-and-clicky interfaces when I'm
dealing with text - the mouse movements on the screen distract me too
much from the text I'm dealing with. Thus I need Emacs's facility of
being fully usable without the mouse. Is Eclipse also fully usable
without a mouse?
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Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)
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- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, (continued)
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, David Kastrup, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Brian Elmegaard, 2005/03/20
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, David Kastrup, 2005/03/20
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Brian Elmegaard, 2005/03/21
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Alan Mackenzie, 2005/03/21
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Brian Elmegaard, 2005/03/22
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, David Kastrup, 2005/03/22
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Brian Elmegaard, 2005/03/23
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, PT, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Miles Bader, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly,
Alan Mackenzie <=
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Shawn Betts, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, PT, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Alan Mackenzie, 2005/03/20
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Eli Zaretskii, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Pascal Bourguignon, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Steinar Børmer, 2005/03/20
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Floyd L. Davidson, 2005/03/20
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Eli Zaretskii, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Shawn Betts, 2005/03/19
- Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly, Pascal Bourguignon, 2005/03/19