Re: [Health] Details of EMR/EHR + documentation

[David Bruchmann]

Chris and Roger,

thanks for your answers.

They help me getting an overview and what to speak about in my presentation.

Concerning the file I downloaded (~15.9 MB), after verification of Gnu Health again, I can't say exactly where I downloaded it but I can open it with an unpacker and the screenshot is attached even I don't know if attachments work in this mailinglist. Basically it has 4 files included with the filenames 1) .text 2) .rdata 3) .data and 4) .rsrc. The file-suffix "ace" I added by myself, before the name was just without suffix.

Best Regards,

David

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Roger Erens <address@hidden> wrote:

Hello David,

as far as I can tell from a quick glance: the medical data is more or less just a bunch of fields in a bunch of tables. GNU Health is not (yet?) made for exchanging EMRs with other systems (other than other installations of GNU Health); it is made for storing (and updating/presenting) EMRs.

The export data functionality found in the Patients tab creates/reads CSV (comma separated values), a text file format that even spreadsheet programs and text editors can handle.

But it's not a structural or semantical meaningful format as is envisaged by HL7 or OpenEHR/ISO13606 standards.

Cheers,

Roger

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:06 PM, David Bruchmann <address@hidden> wrote:

Hello,

as I've a presentation on Wednesday I'd like to know exactly which format the EMR/EHR-records have currently.

It might be important, at least to know about it and maybe the format itself too.

So if it's a standardized format it would be good to know it.

Thanks in advance,

David

PS: concerning documentation I prepared a description about installation on windows and I'll provide it for the public documentation when it's ready (Still the Tryton-Installation is missing).

On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:41 PM, David Bruchmann <address@hidden> wrote:

Hello Emilien,

thanks for your answer.

The storage in the database may be interesting at some point but in the persons or patients folder I've the option to download the record.

This record is in binary format, can be unpacked (by ace if I'm not wrong) and includes several binary files.

The content of these files I'd like to see and control somehow, therefore I'm asking.

Additionally these files are made for exchanging I suppose, so the format and usage of them should be clear.

About different formats, my interest is in general. HL7 exists now in 3 versions if I don't mistake but I suppose there still exist other formats too.

Need for some format is given by doctors / hospitals that request some records in another format, so it depends on the requests.

These details worth it in my opinion to be cleared in the description of GNU Health too as it may be a reason for or against the System.

The documentation on http://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/GNU_Health or http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GNU_Health I know already but as for example my point above is not mentioned at all I think there is still much space for clarification.

I think the existing parts are already good but there are still some important points open / not mentioned. Beside technical details chapter for extension-developers could be added.

The cookbook on http://savannah.gnu.org/cookbook/?group=health is not clear at all for me, everything shown below is not related to gnu health.

Additionally the page http://www.iweee.org/2013-las_palmas/presentations.html could be mentioned, I found it only in a mailing-list.

Best Regards,

David

On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Emilien Klein <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi David,

    +Emilien
Le 12 avr. 2014 21:35, "David Bruchmann" <address@hidden> a écrit :

>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to know which format of the EMR / EHR Records is currently used.

The data is stored in a PostgreSQL database, in models that are built specifically for GNU Health.

> I read in the dev-list that the new format of hl7 is being prepared
> for integration but not yet integrated.
>
> Furthermore I'd like to know about compatibility of other formats -
> they can be imported?

What specific other formats are you interested in?
I'm not sure which conversion/migration options exists, maybe others in the community could expand on this topic?

> Concerning the documentation on the GNU page

Have you had a look at
http://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/GNU_Health
? It's linked to from the project's main page ( http://health.gnu.org )

Cheers,
    +Emilien