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Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add Celestia.


From: Mark H Weaver
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add Celestia.
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:54:22 -0400
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Mark H Weaver <address@hidden> writes:

> address@hidden writes:
>
>> From: Eric Bavier <address@hidden>
>>
>> * gnu/packages/education.scm: New file.
>> * gnu/packages/patches/celestia-includes.patch,
>>   gnu/packages/patches/celestia-libpng15.patch,
>>   gnu/packages/patches/celestia-lua-config.patch: New patches.
>> * gnu-system.am (GNU_SYSTEM_MODULES): Add file.
>>   (dist_patch_DATA): Add patches.
>
> I actually already packaged this (although using the gtk+ interface),
> and have been using it, but I hadn't posted it because there are
> copyright issues with some of the images and models included within,
> e.g. those from the JPL.
>
> I don't have time right now to go into further details...

Okay, I refreshed my memory on the details, and there may or may not
still be an issue.  The issue I remember is that, at least in the past,
the "JPL Image Policy" was this (quoting from
<https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=174456>):

---snip---
JPL Image Policy

JPL images are available for use by the public free of charge. However,
by electing to download images from this web site the user agrees that
Caltech makes no warranties or representations with respect to its
ownership of copyrights for the images, does not represent others who
may claim to be owners of rights in the images, and makes no warranties
as to the quality of the images.

Commercial users (excluding journalistic uses) are required to copy the
JPL Image Release document and return a signed copy to the Caltech's
Intellectual Property Counsel, California Institute of Technology M/C
201-85, Pasadena, California 91125, who will countersign document and
return a copy to you. Copies may be faxed to (626) 577-2528. This
document will become effective when it is countersigned by Caltech.
---snip---

For non-functional data such as this, the GNU FSDG requirements are more
permissive than Debian's DFSG: we don't insist on the right to
distribute /modified/ versions.  However, the license must grant
"permission to copy and redistribute, both for commercial and
non-commercial purposes."  (See the "Non-functional Data" section of
<https://gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html>)

So, the requirement for each user to obtain a release before commercial
use is a show-stopper for us.

However, I looked at <http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/imagepolicy/> today and no
longer see the above text, so maybe the situation has changed since
Debian researched this in 2003.  The only remaining bit that might be
problematic is this (at the end of the page):

  * Some image and video materials on JPL public web sites are owned by
    organizations other than JPL or NASA. These owners have agreed to
    make their images and video available for journalistic, educational
    and personal uses, but restrictions are placed on commercial
    uses. To obtain permission for commercial use, contact the copyright
    owner listed in each image caption. Ownership of images and video by
    parties other than JPL and NASA is noted in the caption material
    with each image.

So, there may or may not still be a problem.  This will require more
research.

      Mark



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