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Re: GNU Guile community in google+


From: hellekin
Subject: Re: GNU Guile community in google+
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:10:36 -0300
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On 12/19/2012 08:40 AM, zx spectrumgomas wrote:
> According to I've been reading  Diaspora unfortunately does not have
> the Communities feature.
>
*** Can you describe that functionality?

> I don't think anyone can deny that Diaspora shares the same philosophy as GNU
>
*** I didn't see any D* developer participate in important federation
meetings lately. Maybe Free Software Activists are not to their taste.

> Here Diaspora project's director saying go away noob!:
> https://twitter.com/spectrumgomas/status/281348200932184064
>
*** What does that mean? This is lacking context.

> Diaspora uses Ruby, why? Because teenagers knows it.
>
*** Teenagers know it because it's a nice language to use. Given a
choice between PHP and Ruby, what would you choose? Teenagers know
Node.JS. Remember JavaScript 10 years ago, before Node and JQuery: it
was loathed. But now that people started understanding how to use it
(and thanks to the newer JS engines and standardization), it's become
hip again.

> Yukihiro Matsumoto has used very well social networks
> [...]
> Real life doesn't work this way. Right now I'm going to keep google+
> account. When Diaspora or other social network works
>
*** You keep using "social network" instead of "social network
services". You're confusing the two. The social network is formed by the
accumulation (over time) of human relationships. Social network
services, or "digital tools to support social networking", enhance the
possibilities of the social network, by making communication and
dissemination easier, or simply: possible, when the network is large enough.

In any case, you should realize that the social network of the Guile
project is already a reality, and that it does not use G+, mostly, as I
understand it, for philosophical reasons. Disclaimer: I'm new to this
project and mailing-list, so I cannot talk for them ; I'm just talking
from my point of view of free software activist, and social networking
experience, both theoretical and practical.

> I'll post showing this thread in which I think it is clear that
> you are  right morally
>
*** If you're intending to post anything from me on G+, please don't.
You may link to the mailing-list archive instead.

> I will say always in Google+ that for  good, official and reliable GNU
> Guile answers the right place are these forums.
> 
*** I respect your vision, but I think "doing it right" would imply
spending energy on making the existing environment better, rather than
deflecting people to commercial services. Let's hope that this can help
"recruiting" people who will help that former way.

One thing you could do is maintain a public G+ page on GNU Guile
pointing to the actual social network hangouts (I'm not talking of
Google's video service, but this mailing-list, etc.), and abstain from
posting "interesting contents" publicly there, nurturing the official
documents instead.

I still think that taking care of a GNU Guile group on LibrePlanet would
make all things much easier, by simply linking existing contents
(official documentation, blog articles, source code, etc.) in a way that
creates more sense to different audiences, including newbies.

I'm convinced that the work you're going to do on G+ would have
benefited LibrePlanet and GNU Guile much more than targeting a large
audience in a non-privacy-respectful, and proprietary environment such
as Google+. Note that it would be trivial to have automated status
updates from the LibrePlanet wiki to Twitter, via Identi.ca (i.e. to use
"a commercial broadcast service" as a mass medium, instead of a
conversational medium.)

==
hk

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