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Re: Guile's I/O procedures should *not* do thread synchronization


From: Ludovic Courtès
Subject: Re: Guile's I/O procedures should *not* do thread synchronization
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:53:27 +0200
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Mark H Weaver <address@hidden> skribis:

> Andy Wingo <address@hidden> writes:
>
>>>>> However, if we promise to do thread synchronization, we will condemn
>>>>> Guile to forever having dog slow 'read-char', 'peek-char', 'write-char',
>>>>> 'get-u8', 'peek-u8', and 'put-u8' operations.
>>>>
>>>> I think you are wrong about "dog slow".  Uncontended mutexes are fast,
>>>
>>> I did some benchmarks of 'putchar' vs 'putchar_unlocked' in C, without
>>> contention.  I think it's fair to assume that the GCC and GLIBC folks
>>> did a reasonably good job of making both of these as fast as they could.
>>>
>>> With gcc -O2, I tested two variants of this program: one with 'putchar'
>>> and one with 'putchar_unlocked'.  On my YeeLoong (mips64el w/ N32 ABI),
>>> the 'putchar_unlocked' version is faster by a factor of 26.3.
>>
>> On my i7-2620M, the difference is only a factor of 3.0.
>>
>> Now I think I understand your perspective; 26x is terrible.  But surely
>> this is an architecture problem, and not a Guile problem?  The world
>> will only get more multithreaded, and ignoring that does no one any
>> service.
>
> Now that I have access to the GCC Compile Farm, I repeated these
> benchmarks on a variety of machines, and here are the results:
>
> Ratio  CPU
> =======================
> 26.3   Loongson 2F
> 14.0   PowerPC (Power7)
> 13.7   Loongson 3A
>  9.33  ARMv6l
>  6.47  UltraSparc IIe
>  5.09  AMD Athlon II
>  4.27  AMD Opteron
>  3.46  Core 2 Duo P8600
> =======================

Interesting; I didn’t expect such differences between unlocked/locked,
and among architectures.

Ludo’.




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