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Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.
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Nicola Pero |
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Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac |
Date: |
Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:47:36 +0100 |
I thought about this last night ...
IMO our default (of course we need to be able to choose other
alternatives easily, but I think you have already make gnustep-make
support that) should be to install things in native locations so
they work with no further effort.
As Truls Becken pointed out yesterday, that might mean having
gnustep-make run ldconfig (or equivalent) when installing libraries
and frameworks as well as just putting things in the 'right' place.
Well, if /usr/local/lib is not in ld.so.conf (it isn't by default on
most Linux distributions), running ldconfig won't help. So, we'd also
have to hack
/etc/ld.so.conf upon installation to add /usr/local/lib/ (or
equivalent action on other unices) ... that is getting very system-
specific
and installation-unfriendly - we don't really want to do that.
I have been thinking about this, and I am now wondering if --with-
layout=gnustep isn't actually still the simpler solution for
new users if we print a *huge* warning at the end of configure (and
make install) about sourcing GNUstep.sh. ;-)
Otherwise, we may now have a new wave of problems from new users, who
don't have /usr/local/bin in their PATH and don't know how
to set their PATH, or who don't have /usr/local/lib in the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH or /etc/ld.so.conf (or whatever it is on their
different Unix system)
and don't know how to change them etc. :-(
We'll end up telling them to run /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/
Makefiles/GNUstep.sh as that's the easiest way of doing all of the
above in a
single command, but then there is no longer any advantage compared to
the GNUstep layout ;-)
The 'fhs' layout has the advantage that is more familiar to new Unix
users. That is great. But in terms of setting up the environment,
just sourcing
GNUstep.sh would remain the easiest way for them to do that. So, we
shouldn't be switching to 'fhs' hoping that that will allow new users
to run
GNUstep stuff without sourcing GNUstep.sh ... and the problem of
switching to 'fhs' is that the GNUstep.sh file would be in a different
location so
millions of web pages and web posts telling people to source /usr/
GNUstep/Library/Makefiles/GNUstep.sh would no longer work. ;-)
I'm personally no longer that convinced about switching to 'fhs' as
default. But I'm happy to be convinced otherwise. ;-)
Thanks
- Re: GNUSTEP_FILESYSTEM_LAYOUT_FILE Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, (continued)
- Re: GNUSTEP_FILESYSTEM_LAYOUT_FILE Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Wolfgang Lux, 2010/09/16
- Re: GNUSTEP_FILESYSTEM_LAYOUT_FILE Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2010/09/16
- Re: GNUSTEP_FILESYSTEM_LAYOUT_FILE Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Nicola Pero, 2010/09/16
- Re: GNUSTEP_FILESYSTEM_LAYOUT_FILE Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Quentin Mathé, 2010/09/16
- Re: GNUSTEP_FILESYSTEM_LAYOUT_FILE Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2010/09/16
- Re: GNUSTEP_FILESYSTEM_LAYOUT_FILE Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Nicola Pero, 2010/09/16
Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Nicola Pero, 2010/09/10
- Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2010/09/10
- Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2010/09/17
- Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Matt Rice, 2010/09/17
- Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Nicola Pero, 2010/09/17
- Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Matt Rice, 2010/09/17
- Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Stef Bidi, 2010/09/17
Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Matt Rice, 2010/09/11
Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Riccardo Mottola, 2010/09/12
Re: [Gnustep-cvs] r31321 - in /tools/make/trunk: ChangeLog GNUstep.conf.in configure configure.ac, Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2010/09/16