Re: [gnugo-devel] GG353 vs GG354 (354 owl failure)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Daniel" <address@hidden>
To: "GNU Go development" <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [gnugo-devel] GG353 vs GG354 (354 owl failure)

> The differences should not be the result of the cache, so long as you
> only replay the color gnugo originally played, at least in general.  Are
> you using the same random seed both times?

i always use the default seed settings but it is not a seed problem (neither
a cache problem)
...
 just an error in gathering the games (GG3.5.3 played some at level 1).

here is an other game with the replay results
beside some differences in semeai evaluation between 353 and 354 ,we
retrieve at move 109 the 3.5.4 owl problem due to changes in Pattern A1124a

(;GM[1]
B[pd]HA[0]
;W[qp];B[dc];W[qf];B[oq];W[ce];B[fd];W[df];B[po];W[qo];B[pn];W[qm]
;B[jq];W[do];B[ol];W[dq];B[cm];W[ck];B[em];W[dl];B[dm];W[fo];B[nd]
;W[gm];B[ic];W[fl];B[qr];W[pk];B[re];W[rf];B[gg];W[kp];B[kq];W[jp]
;B[og];W[qe];B[gi];W[qd];B[qc];W[rd];B[lp];W[of];B[nf];W[ei];B[ip]
;W[pl];B[oi];W[jd];B[oe];W[jc];B[lc];W[jb];B[ke];W[ib];B[hc];W[io]
;B[jo];W[ko];B[jn];W[kn];B[hq];W[ho];B[jm];W[km];B[kl];W[mm];B[ll]
;W[mn];B[ik];W[nk];B[pm];W[ok];B[mj];W[qn];B[bd];W[om];B[no];W[be]
;B[cd];W[qi];B[fr];W[ad];B[ac];W[ae];B[rc];W[bc];B[dr];W[cr];B[ds]
;W[ge];B[fe];W[gf];B[fb];W[ff];B[hb];W[ie];B[ig];W[cb];B[db];W[jf]
;B[lh];W[je];B[cc];W[bb];B[rq];W[kf];B[sn];W[ro];B[so];W[rl];B[sd]
;W[kh];B[ji];W[ki];B[eh];W[di];B[se];W[ee];B[sf];W[kj];B[sg];W[mk]
;B[jj];W[fh];B[qg];W[gh];B[kk];W[hg];B[hh];W[hi];B[jg];W[kg];B[hj]
;W[ih];B[gk];W[ii];B[hl];W[hm];B[im];W[bo];B[jh];W[mo];B[mp];W[rj]
;B[cs];W[br];B[eq];W[ma];B[cq];W[bq];B[dp];W[cp];B[ep];W[eo];B[ob]
;W[oa];B[pa];W[le];B[na];W[mg];B[mh];W[ha];B[ga];W[mf];B[la];W[fg]
;B[fk];W[el];B[ng];W[fi];B[si];W[gj];B[ij];W[on];B[oo];W[sp];B[rp]
;W[ed];B[ec];W[gc];B[gd];W[hd];B[fc];W[ld];B[lk];W[sm];B[sq];W[lb]
;B[mb];W[kb];B[lj];W[mc];B[nc];W[md];B[gp];W[go];B[bs];W[qh];B[rg]
;W[ia];B[nn];W[nm];B[fj];W[da];B[ea];W[ca];B[hp];W[ph];B[pg];W[oh]
;B[nh];W[oj];B[ni];W[rn];B[sp];W[sj];B[ej];W[dj];B[qq];W[pp];B[op]
;W[ar];B[ka];W[pq];B[pr];W[pi];B[ml];W[nl];B[fp];W[if];B[li];W[ri]
;B[sh];W[gi];B[in];W[hn];B[gl];W[fm];B[lg];W[ek];B[lf];W[me];B[dd]
;W[de];B[dq];W[lm];B[lo];W[id];B[gb];W[ja];B[ma];W[];B[ne];W[kd]
;B[ln];W[nj];B[as];W[];B[rh];W[];B[]C[load and analyze mode])


Move 3 (black): GNU Go plays D4 (75.00) - Game move D17 (74.00)
Move 5 (black): GNU Go plays P4 (25.08) - Game move P3 (25.08)
Move 23 (black): GNU Go plays Q11 (24.12) - Game move O16 (24.12)
Move 35 (black): GNU Go plays J3 (20.14) - Game move P13 (17.81)
Move 37 (black): GNU Go plays J3 (20.10) - Game move G11 (17.47)
Move 39 (black): GNU Go plays Q17 (21.93) - Game move R17 (16.53)
Move 41 (black): GNU Go plays J3 (19.91) - Game move M4 (16.44)
Move 43 (black): GNU Go plays O13 (23.74) - Game move O14 (21.18)
Move 53 (black): GNU Go plays J18 (50.46) - Game move L15 (8.85)
Move 61 (black): GNU Go plays K7 (28.13) - Game move H3 (20.32)
Move 67 (black): GNU Go plays J8 (20.02) - Game move M8 (18.04)
Move 93 (black): GNU Go plays H18 (74.20) - Game move F18 (46.39)
Move 109 (black): GNU Go plays T16 (6.00) - Game move T5 (0.40)
Move 113 (black): GNU Go plays H14 (10.54) - Game move K11 (4.83)
Move 155 (black): GNU Go plays F9 (4.32) - Game move P18 (4.22)
Move 223 (black): GNU Go plays Q3 (2.21) - Game move L19 (2.21)