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Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy
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David Kastrup |
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Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy |
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Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:37:51 +0100 |
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"amicus_curious" <ACDC@sti.net> writes:
> "David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org> wrote in message
> 85ab99zkw2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz">news:85ab99zkw2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz...
>> "amicus_curious" <ACDC@sti.net> writes:
>>
>>> "David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org> wrote in message
>>> 85k58d226h.fsf@lola.goethe.zz">news:85k58d226h.fsf@lola.goethe.zz...
>>>> "amicus_curious" <ACDC@sti.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> "David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org> wrote in message
>>>>> 85ocxrkkfj.fsf@lola.goethe.zz">news:85ocxrkkfj.fsf@lola.goethe.zz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try reading the GPL sometime.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, is it valid?
>>>>
>>>> That's entirely the choice of the recipient. If he considers it
>>>> invalid, he does not have a license, and has to behave accordingly. If
>>>> he considers it valid, he has a license granted under terms. As long as
>>>> he heeds the terms, there is nothing to fear for him.
>>>>
>>> Well, that is your opinion certainly, but it begs the question. Is
>>> there any requirment to honor a copyright asserted for something that
>>> has no commercial value? Is such a copyright valid at all?
>>
>> Certainly. I can't break into a house and steal arbitrary things
>> without commercial value. Ownership is not dependent on monetary
>> conversion.
>>
> You keep trying to change the venue from copyright to something else.
You keep trying to change the topic from copyright to money.
> Even so, if you steal nothing of value, you are not prosecuted to the
> extent that you might be if you qualify for grand larceny.
Since when is the punishment of robbery made dependent on its success?
> That is set as a dollar amount.
>
>>> It is much easier to see that source for something that has commercial
>>> value, say Windows itself, is a protected work since the value is not
>>> disputed. But if it, like Linux, is not sold for a profit
>>
>> Huh? How do you suppose RedHat is making a living?
>>
> Providing support for people unable to get Linus to work by itself
> apparently. Basically it is engineering by the pound. Or hour if you
> prefer.
Well, seems like appearances are deceiving to you.
>>> and, worse, the only people making money from it are those who are
>>> being paid to make it work for some client, it is not so clear.
>>
>> Nonsense. Copyright is attached to a work, not to its price tag.
>>
> But is it a "work"? With nothing unique or artistic, can source
> qualify?
If there is nothing unique in it, there would be no incentive to copy,
would it?
> You cannot copyright the contents of a telephone book, for example.
Since when? Databases can be copyrighted, and particularly telephone
book copycats have been sued out of business here.
> Or a recipe for pork and beans.
Tell that to the recipe book publishers.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, (continued)
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, Rjack, 2009/01/28
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, amicus_curious, 2009/01/28
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, Peter Köhlmann, 2009/01/28
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, amicus_curious, 2009/01/29
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, David Kastrup, 2009/01/29
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, David Kastrup, 2009/01/29
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, amicus_curious, 2009/01/29
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, Alexander Terekhov, 2009/01/29
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, David Kastrup, 2009/01/29
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, amicus_curious, 2009/01/29
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- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, Rjack, 2009/01/30
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, amicus_curious, 2009/01/30
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, Rjack, 2009/01/30
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, JEDIDIAH, 2009/01/29
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, amicus_curious, 2009/01/28
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, ZnU, 2009/01/28
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, David Kastrup, 2009/01/28
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, ZnU, 2009/01/28
- Re: Microsoft needs a help strategy, amicus_curious, 2009/01/29