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Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim
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David Kastrup |
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Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim |
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Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:50:33 +0100 |
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Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> writes:
> David Kastrup wrote:
> [...]
>> Last time I looked, the case _did_ involve copyright.
>
> "For the past ten years a software copyright and patent license has
> been circulated by way of the Internet.
So you agree.
>> > Copyleft requires all licensees to surrender right to charge for
>> > derivative works.
>>
>> Or negotiate different license terms. Without copyleft, you _only_
>> have the choice of negotiating different license terms.
>
> Go try to negotiating different license terms for GPL'd stuff in
> Linux.
Go try to negotiate different license terms for the EULA'd stuff in
Windows. Or Java from Sun (they are about to relicense, but it took
them a lot of work to get into the position to do so, apparently).
It is not different with any other license when multiple authors are
involved.
> And, BTW, according to EASTERBROOK, "the GPL propagates from user to
> user and revision to revision: neither the original author, nor any
> creator of a revised or improved version, may charge for the
> software or allow any successor to charge."
>
> Got it?
Well, I hope not. The above sounds a bit confused, or at least
sloppily worded. Certainly the original author is free to charge
whatever he wants for whatever licensed versions.
>> > "Copyright law gives authors a right to charge more".
>>
>> Sure, for their own works.
>
> What do you mean? That improver's copyright in a derivative work is
> less copyright (with less rights that copyright law gives authors)
> than copyright in original work?
No, but it can't be exercised independently from the copyright of the
work that his is derived upon.
> That's copyleft logic, not copyright.
Believe what you will.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, (continued)
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/09
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/09
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/09
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, David Kastrup, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, David Kastrup, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/13
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/13
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/14
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/13
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Richard Tobin, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Richard Tobin, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Alexander Terekhov, 2006/11/10
- Re: EASTERBROOK's "quick look" on the GPL and Wallace's claim, Richard Tobin, 2006/11/10