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Re: [gNewSense-users] Firmware - out of the kernel but still in the hard
Re: [gNewSense-users] Firmware - out of the kernel but still in the hardware?
Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:17:50 +1030
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Dennis Kibbe wrote:
You can return a defective card because the firmware doesn't work. you
cant return a defective kernel :) and debian/ubuntu/gns dont update
kernels (abi+api) after a release is stable, so saying 'you can update
the firmware easier' doesn't really hold in this case.
gNewSense takes the firmware out of the kernel but what about the
For example, the Intel 2200 chipset doesn't work with gNewSense because
of firmware blobs missing from /lib/firmware. The Netgear MA-401 PCMCIA
card does work, but isn't that just because the firmware is in the
chipset in the card instead of in the kernel?
The difference is the firmware is already there, so its not like you
have an option about it (its in hardware in some way). if your loading
binary firmware from the kernel your loading non-free code.
If that's the case then the end result is the same, isn't it?
Of course we need to start somewhere and gNewSense is a great project
that I will use on all my computers and support it within our group.
My Alpha workstation has firmware, i use it for loading the OS.
Sometimes you have to live with non-free firmware because its part of
the system :)
The buck stops there -> $
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