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[Sebastian Reitenbach]

Hi,

Gregory Casamento <address@hidden> wrote: 
> Bean can be built with the latest pbxbuild.

indeed, it compiles. But because I used clang, and gnustep from svn, it stopped
building, MyDocument.m, because it tried to include values.h

Removing this one, it compiled successfully till the end.

It also starts up, but then, I doesn't allow me to enter text. Or at least when
I try, then I see the undo button gets activated, but it doesn't show something
in the editor. Also the buttons don't seem to do anything, only the Preferences
button seems to work well.

Sebastian

> 
> On Monday, January 16, 2012, Sebastian Reitenbach <
> address@hidden> wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> > I have the proposed list put up in a html page.
> > https://www.l00-bugdead-prods.de/Presentation/index.html
> >
> > Fred also offered to help out with the presentation.
> >
> > Some of the links go to pages which don't have an extension, therefore
> the plain html is shown. This is because I mirrored wiki.gnustep.org and
> some of the pages just don't have an extension. But this works well when
> opening the files locally.
> >
> > It would be really great if we could get the vespucci issue resolved.
> Presenting GNUstep apps, I think it would be cool, to use
> > a GNUstep browser to do that ;)
> >
> > Otherwise, on the head of the page, I'd like to get input for some stuff
> that better describes gnustep as a whole, or GAP.
> > The stuff that is there, is a bit taken from the Mission/About pages, but
> if someone can help out with some better words, that would help a lot.
> >
> > Further, the list of applications. Did I missed something important that
> should be mentioned?
> > I wanted to add Cenon to the Image applications too.
> > Fred was talking about adding CoreBreach to the Games. I only run
> OpenBSD, therefore cannot show it, but If Fred could take install it on his
> notebook and shortly show it, and talk a bit about it, what improvements in
> -base and -gui were done to get it to work, that would also be good.
> >
> > Do I have applications in the list that you think I could skip, not worth
> mentioning?
> >
> > So far, I updated all GAP pages, made sure, that they all have the same
> look n feel, and for some, I added some more infos.
> > If someone could review it, check whether there is important info
> missing, would be good if it could be updated.
> > I also started to update some pages in wiki.gnustep.org for apps I want
> want show.
> >
> > I also started approaching some developers of other applications not
> hosted at GAP. Asking them for their future plans of their applications. So
> hope to get some feedback to not only talk about the state of the art, but
> also give an outlook for the future.
> >
> > Therefore, for GAP apps, and the general GNUstep apps, someone has
> plans/news that should be spreaded ;)
> >
> > For GAP: I think, after a new gnustep core release, there will be some
> updates coming, Riccardo has some stuff in the queue.
> > Further, probably NeXTGo should also get an update, since the actual
> release doesn't build with strict gnustep make 2.0.
> > Further, PictureFrame has some flaws, i.e. the cluttered menu, and the
> weatherService doesn't work. Also Ladder doesn't work for me, it starts,
> but I never managed to start a game, it doesn't take my mouse input. I feel
> ignored ;)
> >
> > Another idea I got why playing with Vespucci:
> > Nearly all GNUstep applications don't have a working help. I question
> why? I guess creating rtf documents is not that easy? At least for me,
> > this is true. But creating html pages is easy, just fire up the preferred
> text editor, and start typing.
> > When the image problem may be fixed, and there would be a 0.1 release of
> SWK, and a 0.1 release of Vespucci. Then I got the idea, that the help
> button could call a service open URL and point to local help html files.
> Creating nice looking html files is fairly easy. Making it easy to generate
> help documentation, wold probably encourage more people to create some at
> all. Maybe need some talking to Nikolaus about a SWK release.
> >
> >
> > OK, so long text.
> > Hope to some get some feedback ;)
> >
> > cheers,
> > Sebastian
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:05 CET, "Sebastian Reitenbach" <
> address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Friday, January 6, 2012 15:29 CET, "Sebastian Reitenbach" <
> address@hidden> wrote:
> >>
> >> >  Hi,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Friday, January 6, 2012 14:48 CET, Riccardo Mottola <
> address@hidden> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Sebastian,
> >> > >
> >> > > On 01/05/12 15:13, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I could talk about stuff happened on GAP last year. Especially the
> new/updated applications where I was involved, i.e.  Batmon, AClock,
> Sudoku, GMines, LapisPuzzle, Jigsaw, GMastermind, Neos Theme. Did I missed
> anything?
> >> > > Well, it would be nice talking about those, to show that there was
> >> > > progress in the last year. It doesn't need to be a long talk, just
> >> > > presenting them, showing that they exist (and of course that they are
> >> > > packaged for OpenBSD!) shows that there is interest.
> >> > > I Consider of course BatMon a bit more important since it is in the
> >> > > system tool catecory and not just a game.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Do you maybe plan on having anything released before FOSDEM?
> >> > > It depends if we release GUI before or not. PRICE and DataBasin are
> >> > > close to a release...
> >> >
> >> > OK, I already guessed it might depend on it. So I hope too ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > It would be good to present the more professional stuff.
> >> > >
> >> > > Graphos made big strides!
> >> > > GSPdf got revived and works well (and together with Graphos shows our
> >> > > print-preview working, totally with native apps)
> >> > > LaternaMagica
> >> > > PRICE status and development (even if not strictly GAP)
> >> > >
> >> > > perhaps Grr? and DataBasin?
> >> > >
> >> > > We can also just present maintained application, not just "new"
> >> > > features. Most people will not know much about GNUstep and even less
> >> > > about GAP.
> >> > >
> >> > > Perhaps we should treat this on the GAP mailing list so Greg and
> others
> >> > > can join in and it remains archived. One thread for each app.
> >> >
> >> > Before starting a new thread on each app, let me summarize here:
> >>
> >> I don't create a new thread for each app, I think it would be too
> overwhelming, and more confusing than just this single thread.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I can present nearly anything that is on GAP, since most of it is in
> the OpenBSD ports tree, but not maybe showing all features, since not yet
> released.
> >> > I could also install everything gnustep core from SVN, and GAP CVS, to
> show latest features.
> >> > I guess the second approach would be even better, but I should start
> soon installing and testing, I don't want to show a lot of crashers, and
> other strange bugs ;)
> >>
> >> My plan was the following:
> >>
> >> Instead of creating slides, I''ll create a html page, and from there,
> link and go to the homepages of the applications I'll want to present. I'll
> mirror all the web pages locally on my notebook, just to be prepared of a
> network outage ;)
> >>
> >> To help me with the presentation, please review the homepages of the
> applications on GAP and for PRICE, and also on the
> www.gnustep.org/experience/{at least GWorkspace/ProjectCenter/Gorm/ and
> maybe more}. Please check those pages, and make sure, all the gory features
> of the applications are listed there.
> >>
> >> For the Agenda of the presentation I think about the following:
> >>
> >> - Present/promote GNUstep as a powerful framework to create applications
> >>    * something like the mission:
> http://www.gnustep.org/information/mission.html (if this could also be
> reviewed and updated if necessary, would be good too)
> >> - Present GAP and its goals
> >>    * http://gap.nongnu.org/
> 
> -- 
> Gregory Casamento
> Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
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