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Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)
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Samuel Wales |
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Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft) |
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Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:07:51 -0700 |
On 3/18/13, W. Greenhouse <address@hidden> wrote:
> Perhaps a compromise could be reached on variables such as
> `org-emphasis-alist' and others possibly slated for the defconst
> treatment: instead of doing that, let's consider keeping them
> customizable but include the default values in the Org format
> specification. Org users who are never using Org outside of Emacs will
I think this is a good idea.
===
Here is a brainstorm involving an old idea:
If the problem is external parsers vs. flexibility, I wonder if it
might be possible to have zeltak's cake and eat it too. This applies
to more than just coloring in the buffer transiently.
In the case of color, $[face :foreground "red"]we can actually color
something in a way that external parsers can understand and export
backends can support$[end]. To some degree, at least.
We can do so $[face :foreground "yellow" :underline t]using a syntax
that will work for other features also and can be upgraded$[end]. Not
only for faces. Just change "face" to the name of your feature.
Every feature that uses the $[] syntax starts out as experimental or
in the user's .emacs. Then after we experiment with a feature and
decide it's worth being a default, we add it to the RFC and no longer
call it Emacs-only.
One big win is that Emacs and external parsers need only understand
the $[] notation, and do not need to come up with new parsing
techniques for syntax, because it is a Lisp lambda list. Even the
user can do this.
All sorts of things then come for free. For example, quoting,
escaping, nesting, pretty-printing, exporting, hiding, making the $[]
parts look human-friendly by making them invisible or collapsing them,
and so on. They are all available for new features that need syntax,
including user-defined ones.
A possibility for what it's worth.
Samuel
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- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), (continued)
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), Carsten Dominik, 2013/03/18
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), Thorsten Jolitz, 2013/03/18
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), zeltak, 2013/03/18
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), W. Greenhouse, 2013/03/18
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), Marcin Borkowski, 2013/03/18
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), Carsten Dominik, 2013/03/18
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), Rasmus, 2013/03/18
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), Aaron Ecay, 2013/03/18
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), Nicolas Richard, 2013/03/19
- Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), Nicolas Goaziou, 2013/03/21
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Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft), zeltak, 2013/03/20