Re: [O] Org Writer's room

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 06/12/12 16:51, Matt Price wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Eric Abrahamsen <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>> On 12/06/12 20:09 PM, Matt Price wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Eric Abrahamsen <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> Matt Price <address@hidden> writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Alan L Tyree <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/12/12 11:22, Rasmus wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Andrew Hyatt <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This sounds like an interesting project.  My advice is to make a few 
>>>>>>>> screenshots
>>>>>>>> that give people an idea what you are working towards. Of course, they 
>>>>>>>> could be
>>>>>>>> completely fake, but it would be helpful to understand for people like 
>>>>>>>> me who
>>>>>>>> haven't used Scrivener.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would also like to see this.  It sounds nice when I read your 
>>>>>>> description, but I
>>>>>>> still don't fully appreciate the idea.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> –Rasmus
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm also very interested. I haven't used Scrivener -- what features do 
>>>>>> you see as
>>>>>> making org a *way* better writing environment?
>>>> 
>>>> [...]
>>>> 
>>>>> To start with I would like to just replicate this window structure, 
>>>>> because it keeps
>>>>> you focused on writing, while having the larger structure available if 
>>>>> you feel the
>>>>> need to flit around a bit.  The third screenshot shows a semi-fake, still 
>>>>> very
>>>>> primitive version of what I'd like to have.  (I haven't figured out a 
>>>>> good way to do
>>>>> the metadata yet).
>>>> 
>>>> I *really* like the idea of having a right-hand pane available showing 
>>>> properties around
>>>> the current point -- it could include properties from the PROPERTIES 
>>>> drawer, from the
>>>> structure returned by `org-element-property', text properties, and maybe 
>>>> properties of
>>>> the current headline parent. I'm sort of envisioning what you get from the 
>>>> "inspect
>>>> element" command in Firefox.
>>>> 
>>>> For the left-hand pane, org-toc and org-panel in the contrib directory (or 
>>>> even the
>>>> org-goto interface) might provide some inspiration.
>>>> 
>>>> Ugh, sounds like a lot of work.
>>>> 
>>> those are 3 powerful tools I hadn't used before.  org-toc not working for 
>>> me at the moment
>>> though, there might be something wrong with my .emacs setup...
>> 
>> Yeah, some of that's out of date. Actually, since Org looks like it will be 
>> slowly migrating
>> over to a basis on org elements, that's probably a good direction to look.
>> `org-element-parse-buffer' will return a data structure for the current 
>> buffer that would be
>> ideal for creating a tree visualization.
> 
> hmm, just looked at the output of that command and the data structures look 
> like:
> 
> (headline (:raw-value "The Function of Copyright" :begin 489 :end 610 
> :pre-blank 0 :hiddenp
> outline :contents-begin 517 ...) (section (:begin 517 :end 610 
> :contents-begin 517
> :contents-end 610 :post-blank 0 :parent #1)))
> 
> Those integers are char numbers in the buffer -- would this list then have to 
> be updated for
> every character stroke?  Hmm, I also can pretty much see how to get each 
> :raw-value and turn it
> into text that's presented in a buffer... but I don't understand how to 
> associate that text
> with the existing headline in an org file.  Speedbar seems like a much easier 
> option, but while
> the org-mode parser is nowworking for me(yay!) I can't make the same-frame 
> package work
> (sr-speedbar)!  Gosh darn it!
> 
> ANyway,  thanks eveyrone, I'm going to keep needing help on this so if you 
> have more
> suggestions please keep them coming..

Looking forward to the right side of the three...
As the left side is using existing packages, could you post the commands needed 
to make it work? I
only have it on the right side, and I assume you are using hooks to start 
sr-speedbar?

Rainer


> 
> matt
> 
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