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Re: [O] Idea, configurable markup


From: Sebastien Vauban
Subject: Re: [O] Idea, configurable markup
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:12:01 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (windows-nt)

Hi Dov,

Dov Grobgeld wrote:
> I got the following idea regarding the use of markup characters in org-mode.
> Currently it is possible to use *bold*, /italic/ and ~verbose~ and a few
> other markups. I would have liked to have this extended as follows:
>
>    - Allow the toggling of the display of the "formatting" characters, *, ~,
>    /, etc.

It's already in there:

1. Choose to get them hidden by default with:

   #+begin_src emacs-lisp
     (setq org-hide-emphasis-markers t)
   #+end_src

2. Make them (dis-)appear by toggling visible-mode.

>    - Allow a system that allows the user to invent his own formatting. E.g.
>    «variable», 〈function〉, $math$, ⌞string⌟, or whatever the user fancies. All
>    these modes should be defined in an org-mode variable and the display
>    attributes should be configurable, just like any other custom org-mode 
> font.
>    If the user wants to expand beyond ASCII it should be up to him.
>    - Alternately, use a system like "<var>variable</var>" where the tag var
>    is user definable, just like the magic characters above. The display of the
>    tags should be toggable. Just like for [file:foo.bar] where the [] 
> character
>    are hidden, should the tags be hidden until someone erases one of the two
>    delimiters.
>
> Note that this is nothing more than ideas at the moment, and I'll probably
> never get around to implement any of it. Still I thought I'd share it if
> someone would like to have a go.

Regarding inventing new formatting and having them correctly exported, this is
already there as well:

See:

- `org-emphasis-alist' for face in Emacs and code to HTML
- `org-export-latex-emphasis-alist' for code to LaTeX

So, already done (by others!).

Just a comment on this: I would be in favor of having one or two extra formats
_by default_ -- so that it's not relying on my .emacs config file; in fact, as
much as in TeXinfo...

Currently, as "special" formats[1], we only have:

- org-code, and
- org-verbatim.

And the use case is not that clear to me (how do you code a URL, a filename,
an argument or a key binding?), as both finally gets resolved to the same
appearance (in HTML, and almost the same in LaTeX).

In TeXinfo, it seems to me we have at least:

- url,
- code,
- key binding,

not speaking of internal references.

I'd be glad if we could get the same "expressivety", by default, as the one we
have in TeXinfo[2].

Best regards,
  Seb

Footnotes:

[1] I mean: other than bold, italic, underline and striken-through.
[2] Never wrote any line in TeXinfo, but simply had to read a couple.

-- 
Sebastien Vauban




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