[18:30]*** You have joined channel #twitlive *** Topic for #twitlive: TWiT Live Chat | Follow the Rules: http://j.mp/chatrules | Setup a chat client: http://j.mp/ircclients | Video @ http://live.twit.tv/ | Audio-only @ http://twit.am/listen.m3u | TWiT TV Schedule @ http://j.mp/twitcal *** #twitlive: topic set by address@hidden, 15:49:36 2010/09/18 *** Users on #twitlive: hawk jwfoxjr GadgetMan &Dan_MB Elspuddy Osmonde Subaquinal dctoph Atluxity sheck mollydog paladin252 +Leo-Studio crucialwax xmanii Chris tachikoma ZmK BKuhl chiphonius RedFyre &Dan Inc andyandy jobias ShawnR blackest_mamba Illuminati_mini Harpertown|7 chip da5id ipodman krisguy umop3plsdn tednuit aeiou raynet Web7758 @Dustin vesa MaxVandervelde LadyPeel squishy janisku7 MacNut bgilmore iPhone_15253 Rubicant david32 Web8567 LudoTheGreat merriam Paladin27 *** Users on #twitlive: antoniu Euchre colinlaney hawkins CodyComputerGuy Randy2000 Scunizi Mhykol gregbilton Perc Goatbert test03 Davey RussellChamp spotlessmind zee jabraltr bob backwards Tyson xp99 [PooPsTech] JohnHighway advcomp2019 darkcrayon davidpolanco Xelx thomson1 deetman MechaniX |utp| tom3k iBunny Thor79 oT9 Scrumpy_ @Hipp +jammerb whuxford JOnny JSlo hal1on abc Red_Baron alephnaut Alpha Andy cherro mavhc iYorkie cescalante flyingout kalidor debdrup Vardyr rootrider *** Users on #twitlive: Alvar bitgravity GaTechGrad Weems Blender phliver wenko musicman jacek rorx Sargun adamc1999 tzan4928 eric_adler Bix boon apecat peder bill mbe sqdldr Brisk subx mrdspecs Stu Monte Jesper @Ikon_w darkphan1 wyatt Dist dFunct TechKnowGuy zerobias Kapdap ChrisV Grue rick_h craisis oneup pras edin mexican_seafood TomWeber jolt jmaartenson sigmund KriLL3 pest Web4292 jumbers Thirteen MeMeMe bam Bawitdaba @Techzen jasonrm mdl techky Mazer xcwbp h1ro printguy *** Users on #twitlive: isam eclipse ELspuddy_pc McInTEC kaervek ruok Guest5626 xPi xyz leahey[desktop] Damage DSG_ aurichie cmw wood Maddie Beaster1174 TechPepsi JurassicJon spylinux_ obd phil404|mac PcGuy Mo5 oggle phil404 newt rick5 grishnav @Houdini7 sjefen6 g_r_eek Hixie dt Korgun blkno1 Shawn4523 haversman Si_ sy1 @cwbp Equalizer monkeystick djflux rickcorp RichardM Ravenscroft @troubled Web767 dbullis Catsceo ZenGuy thetechbuzz-MBP +RandalSchwartz derfman24 Ankhwatcher *** Users on #twitlive: moparx shn mjollnir__ HackMaster|NOC btree @Wharpoley Harlan iPhone_34324 MarkSeymour @Darth_Emma Web246 Web7108 WebWatcher steveh unfed jenvin unknown Bowler4Ever BlunderBuss ChrisJones MadeInNY Hak5Darren ratman4 RMF psych4 Ghworg butCuba Belimexmar83 jaymoon madalu CodingGeek loeakaodas Crave TTK cubsfanatic86 Macallan jrdn34x Line_ Tobarja dt01_MacPro JustSomeDude daropedia @Mick perfectsound whfsdude BrianMonroe happyface HiWEB Web620 marksweb12 *** Users on #twitlive: White667 reffle| Night william ZeroNeuro Trini_Man Omen_20 DLinv773 catinthechat DrUnKeN_TiGeR alephnauty Kazy warpig Sandtiger CurtisB SeanieBook Nevyn grundoon amhytti Spiegel sunkenplanet Dvad78 cmpwi PEDRAM j-dog paul_h can0k MattBebich TrixIsOwned aos101 Ds2600 kerfuffle sgrsickness thegame_e fanl3ss No1 vncntl Sparticuz @lifesazoo|work Jarppa MaxPower9 resmo andrei weux crazyguy510 fitz melter wt8008 demogorgon Ven`Tatsu bz_g colint iceflatline *** Users on #twitlive: P27|Ltp Web241 iPad_65930 bigmoneyhat Guru_Meditation dagimar2 TokenBlindGuy Velirno bear J5_JHallgren A-Plus gadgetuk Devlin ABruchis Ghost MoonUnit James|GlideM dieselboy Web7838 zed2012 @KevinH|work cybyl Fireman17 Beef explodopop Web8581 armitage Hextor Web2184 carbondated_ thegoatmilkguy Fee fanless DrDrrae Web4236 shadow nirv krijali toebile jrdn-ipd Sullivan erroneous Web1299 *** #twitlive modes: +CGJLPSTfnrt 5 #twitlive2 4:3 *** #twitlive was created on Saturday 2010/09/18 09:22:49 AM Web4292: kinda like comparing a kid with 2 hr of drivers ed to a 30 yr prof truck driver maybe? Did RandalSchwartz leave the chat or something? *** ADub (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** mrpbody64 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive I'm here none taken jacek; it was just so funny to hear the name again; I used xenix 286, back in the day :) *** Hak5Darren (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds [18:31]*** thegoatmilkguy (address@hidden) has quit: EOF from client *** gadgetuk (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** Hak5Darren (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive lol j-dog *** WebWatcher (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed Ikon_w them were the days ;-) *** thegoatmilkguy (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive RandalSchwartz, sorry I thought you left because you haven't said much in a while. *** Alpha (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds floss me *** blahblahblah15 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive I was prep [18:32]*** ADub (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed *** entity (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive RandalSchwartz: bah, emacs show. clearly you are trying to put some bias into the vi vs. emacs numbers! ;) *** patterson (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Ikon_w I've seen a smuggled copy on a smuggled machine *** punchagan (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive ? again please *** tachikoma (address@hidden) has left channel #twitlive: Leaving hi all *** Pete_NYC (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** Web241 (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed [18:33] that's OK troubled; vi & emacs both suck *** troubled (address@hidden) has changed mode for #twitlive to -o Ikon_w >< rage! *** troubled (address@hidden) has changed mode for #twitlive to +o Ikon_w *** itsdahoot (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive lol lkon_w, I don't know what vi or emacs even are. Ikon_w true, ed(1) rules *** dagimar (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [18:34] troubled: One of the things I really like Emacs for is that it allows me to run Vi inside it. =) troubled: Showed it to a friend that uses Vi the other day and the only thing he had to say about it was "you're doing it wrong". *** mrpbody64 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds Web4292 it might be a good idea for you to join a local Linux Users Group [18:35] "Local" Linux Users Group? Local!? *** blahblahblah15 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds /usr/local/group cmpwi well, he was right, you are supposed to run Emacs from vi jacek, he won't dnload & install Linux, and you expect him to actually leave the house??? :) [18:36]*** MaxVandervelde (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds Ikon_w yup, I believe in da man *** iTech (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive I can leave the house. What are they talking about? lol jacek, you're kind of faith is a rare thing these days :) *** d_t (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** urgen (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** urgen (address@hidden) has quit: Changing hosts *** urgen (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** TJ (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** Pete_NYC (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** sa|mu|el (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** Y0Y0 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** SL0RD (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [18:37]*** KevinH (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** ChanServ (address@hidden) has changed mode for #twitlive to +o KevinH *** TomaszD (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** cluteman (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive iTech: talking about Org-mode: http://orgmode.org *** wrenny (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Web4292: have you looked at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_Schwartz before? thats who you're chattin with *** tom3k (address@hidden) has left channel #twitlive: #twitlive ok thx [18:38]*** reaverxai (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** alephnauty (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds Ikon_w he reminds me my younger self when I was trying to join the Amiga Developer's program *** j-dog (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client *** ExtraNormal (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [18:39] Ikon_w made a complete fool of myself J5_JHallgren, I'll check it out. *** wizetux (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Ikon_w just like Web4292 is doing today ;-) [18:40] BTW, Web4292 I know how you must feel. If you really don't know who Randall is or don't want to do work and yet you want to try Linux, then there's a couple of years of learning ahead of you [18:41] jacek: Knowing who Randal is isn't really a prereq for running Linux. When you say a couple, you mean like two or three or maybe four? *** iTech (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds [18:42] of course I already knew the answer to that steveh true, but it never hurts to know who Randal is ;-) [18:43] well, it could hurt randal Web4292 one year of you will lock yourself in the house and never leave or go to sleep, four if you wing it on free afternoons *** alephnauty (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [18:44]*** randy_nacol2002 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive ah oh, it came back Web4292, if you listen to floss you might learn some Perls of wisdom :) :\ [18:45] lkon_w, was that from RandalSchwartz wikipedia page? It says that he writes a collum called that. *** galbula (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** psych4 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds I haven't looked at the wiki Ikon_w I think I might be loosing my faith after all... *** dieselboy (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Leaving - Follow me @ twitter.com/dieselboy28 hehehe [18:46] jacek: why? is it too tight? oh ye of little faith..... i just used the wiki to quickly give some data about how well known he is lkon_w, scroll up on the chat to find the link I'm signed up for a hackathon on the weekend and I appear to be the only one there who is going to be using Linux. Ikon_w that could be a famous quote of the day ;) Strange. I don't need the link; I've watched Randal for quite a while [18:47] steveh what are the other guys going to use? macs org tables rock! jacek: Windows and... *sigh* OSX :) ipads *** ChrisJones (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep Frankly, I don't think the mac users should be admitted. steveh slackers... [18:48] They're just going ask a lot of questions about how to open their text editor and then trim their ironic moustaches. steveh what are you going to be hacking on? jacek: Has to do with garbage. *** Bgeek (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive steveh, I have a Mac Mini Web4292: Condolences http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple [18:49] steveh garbage? then the other guys are using the right tools jacek: It's a web app that will allow people in London to get sms reminders the night before the trash is due. very cool! *** g1cpu (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive steveh, I found some way to get emacs on my Mac through the Terminal but I forgot how to get it back. *** iPad_40911 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive type emacs *** Web2991 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive thank you *** Chris_435 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive steveh isn't it easier to vote Boris out of the office? ;-) [18:50] the garbage app should be fairly simple to write it's the data that's going to be the pain [18:51] the garbage dudes have yet to give us the data about how they seperate the garbage zones in the city steveh I can imagine, I'm hacking on an Adroid app that will do a lot of data back/forth with a server *** msheathen_ (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive steveh,I typed emacs into Terminal now what can I do now? [18:52] type stuff then save it then reopen it *** GaTechGrad (address@hidden) has quit: EOF from client *** wisewarrior (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive or just drag emacs to the trash can where it belongs *** Macallan (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed [18:53] I am watching this channel for questions hi randal I still have an emac that the kids use. how does something get into the contrib of emacs and then move into the main source of org-mode? *** iPad_40911 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds RandalSchwartz is it possible to get ePub and LaTeX out that puppy? steveh, how do I save in Terminal, I can't find Save under the file menu. he just said that yes [18:54] Steveh, I meant Shell menu RandalSchwartz I might try Emacs again then... haven't done so in like 20 years, but I just might do it [18:55] jacek: whats the worst that can happen? you get RSI from all their meta key combos? :) *** robby (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** g1cpu (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds troubled I'm afraid I get lost in a dark one-way alley with Eliza mode on [18:56] lol heh like a kitchen sink :-) y0u have been eaten by a grue *** itsdahoot (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client Ikon_w: heh Stats of Org-mode mailing list: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-mailing-list.php#sec-3 *** iPad_dave (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** iPhone_15506 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [18:57] The Community documentation is here: http://orgmode.org/worg/ *** Ikon_w (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: I'm not gonna stand for it anymore.... I QUIT! on a serious note, if I found a tool that lets me write once and publish in many formats, I'd die a happy man Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Two--one to hold the giraffe, and the other to fill the bathtub with brightly colored machine tools. *** iPhone_15506 (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client *** iPhone_76159 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** MaxVandervelde (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [18:58]*** White667 (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: - www.66Seven.co.uk RandalSchwartz: with such a huge user base, do you think having a "meet-up" or event where all the Org-ers come together would be good? possible to happen sometime soon? good question [18:59]*** Web7920 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** Web535 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** White667 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** ChrisJones (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [19:00]*** Web535 (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed *** urlwallace (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive i used emacs in school a little last year, http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/index.html I checked Org Babel... pity there's no Lout, Objective-C or Java support... [19:01]*** MoonUnit` (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** MoonUnit` (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: *\o/* and no Lua... *** MoonUnit (address@hidden) has quit: EOF from client punchagan: I think that would be *great*. Not sure how hard it would be to organize though. *** MoonUnit (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [19:02]*** iPad_50972 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive RandalSchwartz: do you use GTD? how do you integrate stuff that you get done or are reminded of, when you are not in front of your emacs terminal. *** iPad_dave (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds I've heard of Lua. That was used to create Lightroom from Adobe, I think. Iu use omnifocus [19:03] bz_g: yes. we are all over the world. :) I use omnifocus and evernote *** auburnfan99 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Web4292 Lua is very popular in the game dev communities [19:04] jacek, does that mean that I might have a PS3 game that was developed with the use of Lua scripting? Web4292 could be *** klandwehr (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [19:05]*** Bgeek (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client Is Lua open source? RandalSchwartz have you tried TaskPaper? There is a Vim mode... Web4292 sure is http://www.lua.org/ About planning: Org also exports to TaskJuggler : http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-taskjuggler.php and ther is a Mac OS X app called TaskPaper [19:06]*** gm2010 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive yes. emacs mailing list rocks! *** iPad_50972 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** randy_nacol2002 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds RMS got involved? Ouch! *** smartfix (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [19:07] Richard Stallman's Personal Home Page http://stallman.org/ *** cr (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** mrmac (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** iPad_65930 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** kerfuffle (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: [19:08]*** Web1119 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** auburnfan99 (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client *** robert_ (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive this is a little odd..http://stallman.org/photos/rms-working/pages/33.html *** Web1119 (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed [19:09]*** Andrew (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Big secret: I'm working on a Org<->patchwork interface... *** Andrew (address@hidden) is now known as AndrewC RandalSchwartz are using MobileMe to sync OmniFocus or your own WebDAV server? bz_g: awesome. ERC> /whois punchagan *** punchagan is http://www.mibbit.com (address@hidden) *** punchagan is on channel(s): #twitlive *** punchagan is/was on server irc.twit.tv (TWiT IRC) *** punchagan has been idle for 00:00.09, on since 18:32:19 2010/09/22 *** carbondated_ (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds [19:10]* punchagan loves the org-mode community too! jacek, you just said a bunch of stuff to make my head nearly explode. bz_g: wow. looking forward to that. *** carbondated_ (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** sjefen6 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** Universal (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [19:11]*** smartfix (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** psych4 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** randy_nacol2002 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Web4292 sorry about that, didn't mean to hurt ya *** Web1299 (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed [19:12]*** iPhonegeek (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive That's OK, I'm using emacs as kind of like a notepad to write this stuff down to look it up later. Also, where is the file menu? I only see Shell *** iPhone_76159 (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client [19:13]*** leofan (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** Web4989 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Good idea: check the Donate button on http://orgmode.org :) [19:14]*** AndrewC (address@hidden) has left channel #twitlive: #twitlive Emacs is an environment. :) leofan, please change your nickname to something that does not contain a hosts name or show name, as to not cause confusion, you can either refresh your browser or type /nick NEWNAME to do it. thanks *** mattjd (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** Randy2000 (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** Web465 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [19:15]*** QwertyToo (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** leofan (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed they meet in emacs ;-) meet mode on ;-) *** sjefen6 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** sjefen6 (address@hidden) has quit: Changing hosts *** sjefen6 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [19:16]*** macfan (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** Web4599 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Actually we have had two or three informal small meetings with Orgers in France during the last months. lol haha * troubled cries foul! yep emacs is so much more. troubled! hi! *** cr (address@hidden) has quit: EOF from client url! *** iPhonegeek (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds (: I admire those who use Emacs [19:17] I honestly do *** ChrisJones (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep *** JasonMasque13 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive yay! Carsten! thanks for the wonderful org-mode! indeed - thanks! Carsten, thanks! awesome project Many many thanks! [19:18] I will recommed Org mode to a couple of my Emacs-loving frineds *** dagimar (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** kerfuffle (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive [19:19]*** macfan (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: Page closed *** cr (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** msheathen__ (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** h (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive Thanks thanks RandalSchwartz for the great interview! *** bitgravity (address@hidden) has quit: Connection closed *** msheathen__ (address@hidden) is now known as msheathen [19:20]*** bitgravity (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive *** MaxVandervelde (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds thanks RandalSchwartz [19:21]*** madalu (address@hidden) has quit: Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.0.50.38 *** Web8066 (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive yes! Bring Jono back! *** msheathen_ (address@hidden) has quit: Ping timeout: 121 seconds *** Andrewccm (address@hidden) has joined channel #twitlive yay randal [19:22] Loving the new twit pad app! ERC>