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Re: [PATCH] Only signal package.el warnings when needed


From: Radon Rosborough
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Only signal package.el warnings when needed
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 14:46:16 -0700

> From: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>
> Date: Jan 14, 2019, 8:49 AM
>
>> From: Radon Rosborough <address@hidden>
>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:17:58 -0700
>>
>> Currently, a warning is emitted when this occurs.
>
> But we didn't actually hear complaints about that, did we?

There seems to be some unnecessary confusion in this thread:
<https://github.com/jkitchin/scimax/issues/194>

Also, there's some annoyance here:
<https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=31397>

You're right that we have not heard too much about it. However, I
expect that we will hear a lot more about it if we release Emacs 27
with the current code. This is because people who run Emacs from HEAD
are more likely to be advanced users who know how to proceed when
confronted with a warning message like this.

Consider that essentially every modern Emacs init-file contains a call
to `package-initialize', since such a call was inserted whenever the
package manager was used. It seems like a huge amount of unnecessary
work to tell every Emacs user with an init-file to manually edit it --
especially since many users are not even aware that they have an
init-file.

I don't see any downside to installing the patch, but I do see a clear
benefit to many users. Let me know your thoughts.

Best,
Radon


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