Re: Should we just start dumping cl-lib?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Daniel Colascione <address@hidden>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 22:28:53 -0700
> 
> >> Commit d605a539d4863c7e7c66aaea6e538ae14c47f3d7 broke Emacs when winner was
> >> enabled without cl-lib being loaded. Nobody seems to have noticed until 
> >> now,
> >> which suggests that either almost nobody uses winner, or almost everybody
> >> has cl-lib loaded anyway. Maybe it's time to just dump cl-lib with Emacs.
> > 
> > I use winner, but always have cl-lib loaded.
> 
> So does almost everyone else, apparently.

Only those who use winner, apparently.  This incident tells us nothing
about those who don't use winner, right?

> So let's save everyone some initialization CPU time and preload
> cl-lib.

Up until now, the rules for pre-loading package X were that either
(a) some preloaded package requires X, or (b) X will be auto-loaded at
the beginning of every session by some very frequent operation, like
visiting the first file or creating a window or a frame.

Since winner is itself an optional package that not everyone uses
(e.g., I don't), this case doesn't seem to qualify, IMO.