Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience

[Andreas Röhler]

Am 23.09.2013 09:07, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
> > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:03:30 +0200
> > From: Andreas Röhler <address@hidden>
> >
> > Am 23.09.2013 02:18, schrieb Lennart Borgman:
> > > The tutorial kind of throws other keybindings than the arrow keys on the
> > > new user. Kind of patronizing if someone asks me. ;-)
> >
> > Putting users first attention at that kind of matter, it also spreads a quit 
> > unjust and wrong impression WRT Emacs and it's people.
> >
> > That tutorial probably was okay twenty years ago.
> > No it reads as vim's ":q" is envied, proving emacs can make it difficult too.
>
> When did you read it last time? also 20 years ago?


At the very first screen C-v is presented.
Nowadays keyboards commonly have an own key for it, no need to bother beginners 
with this.
While later, certainly, it's preferable.

Next screen tells about C-p, C-n
That must have been changed very recently ;)