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Re: GSoC 2013
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joakim |
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Re: GSoC 2013 |
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Mon, 06 May 2013 09:58:50 +0200 |
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"Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden> writes:
> chad writes:
>
> > GSoC is an effort to help get potential hackers hacking, not to
> > outsource programming needs to cheap labor.
>
> It's both, and more. In particular, it's *not* a mentor-student
> relationship, it's a project-student relationship, *represented* by
> the mentor.
>
> > Anyone who actually wants to see Emacs get more involved in GSoC
> > needs to start putting in organizational effort (creating process,
> > identifying projects, recruiting students, recruiting mentors, etc)
> > *before*, not *at* the deadline.
>
> Exactly my point. Giving Emacs slots is just encouraging its bad
> behavior. There are a lot of well-behaved projects out there, some
> with excellent students, who aren't going to get slots. Emacs is most
> likely going to get slots it doesn't deserve. That sucks.
Some of us are making a best effort. The effort doesnt show much on this
list because its not here its taking place.
IMO the project I intend to mentor is going well. Not because of me
because I my brain wasnt fitted with an administration module. Damirod
wrote the proposals etc, and he made a good job.
>
> By the way, I've done all that. Project identification wasn't very
> good (but it was better than the whole GNU Project's ideas page, which
> is just plain sad for an organization that preens like the leader of
> the whole free software world, and of course Emacs doesn't even have
> one), and we deserved to have our org rejected this year.[1]
>
> So I know it's not that much effort that Emacs couldn't do it if it
> wanted to. Emacs just doesn't want to.
>
>
> Footnotes:
> [1] Google also has some non-quality criteria that we didn't score
> high on -- we may very well not make it next year, either.
>
>
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Joakim Verona
- Re: GSoC 2013, (continued)
- Re: GSoC 2013, joakim, 2013/05/04
- Re: GSoC 2013, Glenn Morris, 2013/05/04
- Re: GSoC 2013, Xue Fuqiao, 2013/05/05
- Re: GSoC 2013, Daimrod, 2013/05/05
- Re: GSoC 2013, Xue Fuqiao, 2013/05/05
- Re: GSoC 2013, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2013/05/05
- Re: GSoC 2013, Daimrod, 2013/05/05
- Re: GSoC 2013, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2013/05/05
- Re: GSoC 2013, chad, 2013/05/05
- Re: GSoC 2013, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2013/05/06
- Re: GSoC 2013,
joakim <=
- Re: GSoC 2013, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2013/05/06
- Re: GSoC 2013, Daimrod, 2013/05/06
- Re: GSoC 2013, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2013/05/06
- Re: GSoC 2013, Bastien, 2013/05/06
- Re: GSoC 2013, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2013/05/06
- Re: GSoC 2013, Daimrod, 2013/05/05
Re: GSoC 2013, Daimrod, 2013/05/04