Re: bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries

[Christoph Scholtes]

Ted,

On 1/26/2012 8:44 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> Christoph, can you add a GnuTLS build step to your Emacs build for
> Windows, so the latest GnuTLS version can be used on that platform?  We
> had a long conversation about this and at least for now it seems to be
> the best approach (and we agreed it would not be a task for the core
> Emacs developers).  If you prefer, I can set up a BuildBot to produce
> the GnuTLS DLLs for you.

From what Eli said about his experience building GnuTLS on W32 this is 
something I'd rather not take on. My time is rather limited.

I am happy to build against whichever GnuTLS lib with binaries is 
available for W32 wherever. Whether that is on Eli's site or the 
official GnuTLS site.

I will also include a link to a location where to obtain the binaries in 
my release announcements from now on.

Regarding shipping Emacs with the GnuTLS binaries, I am generally not 
opposed to doing that. But what about jpeg, gif, tiff support? I agree 
with Juanma who IIRC said that we are providing an _Emacs binary 
distribution_. This whole model does not fit the expectations in the 
Windows world. In 2012, Windows users expect an "Emacs for Windows" with 
all (binary) batteries included, an installer/uninstaller, etc. We don't 
supply that and unless somebody steps up and does the work necessary we 
won't. Whether politically speaking we should is another question.

Right now I am building against Eli's library v3.0.9. If you provide a 
more recent, working, binary build for Windows and there is a somewhat 
convenient way for me to get it (I can script downloading and unzip'ing) 
I can include it in the binary distribution. That is, of course, if 
nobody has compelling arguments why I should not.

Do we have to provide the source for GnuTLS if we include it in the 
distro or is it enough for it to be available on the GnuTLS site?

Christoph