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Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated]
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Alan Mackenzie |
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Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] |
Date: |
Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:22:16 +0000 |
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Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) |
Morning, Paul.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:00:15AM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 01/21/2012 12:59 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Because fewer people are using tty environments (which is
> > basically what is meant here by "ASCII-only") ...
> No, by "ASCII-only" I meant displays that can display only ASCII.
> I use tty environments all the time, and they're never ASCII-only.
OK.
> > I have an ordinary Linux tty, currently running a Latin-1
> > character set.... I don't know how to do this, and finding out
> > is going to be a lot of work.
> It shouldn't be a lot of work. I don't normally use the Linux
> console, but I looked into this problem and on my Ubuntu desktop
> the fix is simple:
> export LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
> setupcon
> After executing these two shell commands, I can see directed
> quotes ‘like this’ with no problem, both within Emacs and when
> catting to the terminal. If it matters, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10
> x86 on a 5-year-old desktop.
> Does this approach work for you?
So far I've been at it about 1½ hours and got nowhere. I tried setting
LC_ALL (to en_UK.utf8), but haven't got `setupcon'. So I tried Gentoo's
way,
# /etc/init.d/consolefont restart
, no joy. Then I grepped through Gentoo's repository index for setupcon,
finding nothing. Then wikipedia - Nothing. Then Google - Hah! I found
a man page. This talks about /etc/default/console-setup, yet gives no
pointer to a description of that file.
At this point I get the familiar feeling of being on a wild goose chase,
which happens about every time I need to configure something new on Linux
(thankfully, GNU is much easier).
So a reversion to logic - whatever utility I use to set the font, that
font must exist in /usr/share/consolefonts. But the font I'm already
using, lat1-16.psfu.gz, allegedly "[has] a built-in Unicode mapping",
whatever that might be. Yet I don't get the curly quotes displayed in
Emacs (or anywhere else).
> "It shouldn't be a lot of work."
Maybe not, but there can be a large gap between "shouldn't be" and "won't
be".
Maybe you could give a run through of a hypothetical sequence of steps a
tty user would go through to find out how to set up his console for this.
Up to now it's taken nearly 2 hours now to get absolutely nowhere. Maybe
I'm unusually inept at this sort of thing, but I don't think so. I had a
head start by virtue of your help, for which thanks, but that misses the
point, that it will be very strenuous for a normal tty user to get set up
to see these curly quotes.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], (continued)
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Paul Eggert, 2012/01/20
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Alan Mackenzie, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Alan Mackenzie, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Andreas Schwab, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], David De La Harpe Golden, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], David De La Harpe Golden, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Richard Stallman, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Paul Eggert, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated],
Alan Mackenzie <=
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], James Cloos, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Richard Stallman, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Paul Eggert, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Stephen J. Turnbull, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Paul Eggert, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Alan Mackenzie, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Paul Eggert, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Stephen J. Turnbull, 2012/01/22
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2012/01/22