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Re: delete-selection-mode
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David Kastrup |
Subject: |
Re: delete-selection-mode |
Date: |
Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:38:41 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) |
Lennart Borgman <address@hidden> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Alan Mackenzie <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Richard that the primary concern is doing what is useful
>>> for newcomers.
>>
>> You have misconstrued Richard's post. He went on to say that what is
>> useful for newcomers isn't necessarily what they expect or "want".
>> There's thus no indication there that he would support the rest of your
>> argument.
>
> Juri can of course be correct too when he interpret this basic part of
> RMS message. You can also be that. However I see no reason why Juri
> can't argue that way.
>
>> The answer is to ask them why they want this.
>
> Have not that been done many, many times - in the context of Emacs and
> in research on user-computer interaction. As far as I understand the
> answer is that new users most often want it to behave as they are used
> to from other applications. They want that exactly because it saves
> them time
Once.
> and avoids confusion (which also costs them time).
>
> I for one agree with that argument.
It is valid, but an O(1) type of argument. It will not outweigh O(n)
arguments even with a small factor eventually. If something costs time
repeatedly, saving startup time is not worth the trouble when we are
catering about being efficient on a continuing base.
I already gave a recipe for making mouse-centric people happy with a
mouse-centric subset of delete-selection-mode.
Nobody even bothered to read it, apparently.
--
David Kastrup
- RE: Bell, (continued)
- RE: Bell, Drew Adams, 2010/03/22
- Re: Bell, Juri Linkov, 2010/03/20
- Re: AW: delete-selection-mode, David Kastrup, 2010/03/17
- RE: AW: delete-selection-mode, Drew Adams, 2010/03/17
- Re: AW: delete-selection-mode, Miles Bader, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Stefan Monnier, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, David Kastrup, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, joakim, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.), Alan Mackenzie, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.), Lennart Borgman, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Lennart Borgman, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, David Kastrup, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Stefan Monnier, 2010/03/17
- RE: delete-selection-mode, Drew Adams, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Juri Linkov, 2010/03/17
- RE: delete-selection-mode, Drew Adams, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, David Kastrup, 2010/03/18
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Miles Bader, 2010/03/17