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Re: Emacs vista build failures
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Richard M Stallman |
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Re: Emacs vista build failures |
Date: |
Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:54:45 -0400 |
It is a failure of the GNU project and of the free software movement
that there is so much emphasis on monolithic distributions and binary
package distributions. It is a failure of the GNU project and the free
software movement that one so often encounters distros that offer to
not install source trees and even offer to not install development
environments.
The words "it is a failure of" are ambiguous. They could literally
mean "it is a goal we have not achieved", but they also suggest
placing the blame for this on us.
Certainly these are goals we have not achieved, but if others do not
follow our recommendations, that's their decision, not ours. When I
designed the GNU specs for configuring and building source packages, I
hoped that free software developers generally would adopt them, but
they did not.
I tried at one point to convince XFree86 to support the GNU
configuration spec. I even found a volunteer to implement that as a
wrapper around their existing configuration mechanism. But they did
not consider such compatibility very important, and I don't think they
installed this wrapper.
To convince free software projects generally to adopt this spec
would require more pressure from the community in general.
It is easy to call names (such as calling the GNU Coding Standards
"anemic"), but given that many programs' developers won't even
implement those, I doubt we would obtain much compliance for stricter
ones.
- Re: Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs, (continued)
- Re: Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs, Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/07/22
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Stefan Monnier, 2008/07/13
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Richard M Stallman, 2008/07/14
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Richard M Stallman, 2008/07/14
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Alan Mackenzie, 2008/07/14
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Thomas Lord, 2008/07/15
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/07/15
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Thomas Lord, 2008/07/15
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, David Kastrup, 2008/07/15
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Thomas Lord, 2008/07/15
- Re: Emacs vista build failures,
Richard M Stallman <=
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Thomas Lord, 2008/07/17
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Richard M Stallman, 2008/07/19
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Thomas Lord, 2008/07/19
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Karl Berry, 2008/07/23
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Thomas Lord, 2008/07/23
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Gilaras Drakeson, 2008/07/24
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Richard M Stallman, 2008/07/25
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Thomas Lord, 2008/07/25
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Miles Bader, 2008/07/17
- Re: Emacs vista build failures, Richard M Stallman, 2008/07/19