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Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead
From: |
Stephen J. Turnbull |
Subject: |
Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8) |
Date: |
Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:07:50 +0900 |
> You know, it's nice if people use self-describing documents, but Emacs
> is an _editor_, not an xml validation system.
Emacs is an editor, so what? That's hardly an exclusive description
of Emacs! If PSGML is loaded it is also an SGML validation system;
I'm not sure whether the state of the art includes XML validation, but
there's no reason it shouldn't, and every reason it should.
> It should handle things gracefully, as best it can, even if the
> user is being a bit lazy.
What's ungraceful about C-x C-s responding with
Warning: This XML document does not seem to conform to XML
charset declaration rules. Would you like to
(1) add an XML processor instruction (coding cookie)
(2) link to a parent document which specifies the encoding
(3) create a dummy parent document (available only to your sessions)
(4) save as is in the [buffer-file-coding-system] encoding?
Doesn't it already do similar things if b-f-c-s is iso-8859-1 and you
try to save Japanese?
Nor is it an issue of lazy users. Users *should* be lazy. *We*
should do as much work as possible for them, and make standards
conformance the path of least resistance. But what I think is
happening here is that some *developers* simply dislike standards
(standards "enslave" you, dontcha know?), and others are lazy.
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), (continued)
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stefan Monnier, 2008/02/15
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/02/16
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Jason Rumney, 2008/02/16
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/02/16
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/02/16
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/02/16
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/02/17
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/02/17
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Miles Bader, 2008/02/17
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8),
Stephen J. Turnbull <=
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Miles Bader, 2008/02/17
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/02/18
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Miles Bader, 2008/02/18
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/02/19
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Miles Bader, 2008/02/19
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/02/19
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Jason Rumney, 2008/02/19
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Miles Bader, 2008/02/19
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/02/19
- Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8), Stefan Monnier, 2008/02/19