Re: Avoiding moving point into minibuffer prompt area

[Lennart Borgman]

Juri Linkov wrote:

> > > It is useful to move point into the minibuffer prompt without
> > > changing default settings.  But since this can be confusing for
> > > beginners, maybe it should be more difficult to move point into the
> > > prompt area by default?  For example, to disable moving point into
> > > the prompt with C-b, but allow C-a at the beginning of the input
> > > area to move point to the beginning of the prompt.  This is like C-a
> > > (`message-beginning-of-line') works on message header fields.
> > >
> > >      
> > Could be an idea, sounds consistent and not to surprising perhaps. But 
> > it seems easier to change the default for "Inviolable".
> >    
>
> Instead of changing the default, please try to find a solution that
> will please as much the beginners as the seasoned Emacs users.
>  
Well, I am trying, it is not very easy all the time ;-)

Combining what we have said so far I think this could be reasonable and 
useful:

1) Change the default (sorry ;-)
2) Let C-a move first to the beginning of the input area
3) Let more C-a move between beginning of the prompt and input area 
(toggle so to say)

For this to actually work I guess 3 also would toggle Inviolable temporary.

Does this way seems reasonable to you?

>  
>
> > BTW the message "Text is readonly" is also confusing when "Inviolable" 
> > is set. You expect the prompt to be readonly and the message is 
> > disturbing when you delete character by character and then suddenly this 
> > text appears over the prompt. The first time you see this you may think 
> > that something is very wrong, at least that is what I did.
> >    
>
> What do you expect in this situation?  Trying to delete a character at
> bob prints the message "Beginning of buffer".  Perhaps it should print
> something like "Beginning of prompt input area" in the minibuffer.
>  
I would expect no message at all in this situation. In my opinion that 
would be better. Alternatively perhaps "You are at the beginning of the 
input area - to move into the prompt area use C-a".