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Re: follow-link in grep buffer
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David Kastrup |
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Re: follow-link in grep buffer |
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Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:47:58 +0100 |
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Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> writes:
>> If we have specific problems in certain modes, let's fix those
>> modes (e.g. in grep that you have to click on the file:line
>> part of a line to jump).
>
> AFAICT the specific problem at hand is that a mous-1 click used to
> get focus should not follow a link. No matter what kind of link, no
> matter the major mode.
That's not the only problem. A mouse-1 click not used to get focus
should follow a link. If it doesn't, that is surprising. Now
click-to-focus is strictly a windowmanager and frame thingy. While
one also uses the mouse for the purpose of changing the _window_
instead of the frame, one would be terribly surprised if this had not
the side effect of setting point, too. Basically, one sets point into
a different window since that is the convenient way to change focus.
It is completely backwards if this side effect of a window change
leads to a link working or not working, namely if we _do_ set point,
but _don't_ follow the link. With a true click-to-focus, we should
not even have the window-point change, merely the selected window.
All those semantics are far too clever. It is an absolutely
horrifying thought to have to explain this to a bunch of beginners
with Emacs. They'll just declare me crazy and be done.
> I think x-mouse-click-focus-ignore-position is pretty much the kind
> of thing we want, although I'd have expected that the window-manager
> would take care of those things (it should eat the "click-to-focus"
> and not pass it on to the application).
You are confusing frame and window. Changing the selected window is
also necessary at times.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, (continued)
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Kim F. Storm, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Lennart Borgman, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Kim F. Storm, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Andreas Schwab, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Kim F. Storm, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Reiner Steib, 2005/02/26
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Richard Stallman, 2005/02/26
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Lennart Borgman, 2005/02/25
- RE: follow-link in grep buffer, Drew Adams, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- RE: follow-link in grep buffer, Drew Adams, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- RE: follow-link in grep buffer, Drew Adams, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Robert J. Chassell, 2005/02/25