RE: Weird frame/buffer interaction

[EXT-Broida, Michael P]

Sorry to keep sending messages, but I'm finding more details
that might help.

That magic resizing is really odd.  If I continue to hold
down the mouse button, the windows (EXCEPT the top one)
keep changing sizes: springing up and down pretty wildly
with just tiny mouse movements.

Also note that it SEEMS to only happen if I'm dragging the
UPPERMOST modebar (below the top window), NOT any lower bar.
Dragging the 2nd/3rd/etc modebar does NOT cause any unexpected
resizing (though it still sometimes lets me squish multiple
lower windows and sometimes does not allow that).

        Mike


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> From:         EXT-Broida, Michael P
> Sent:         Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:07 AM
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> Subject:      RE: Weird frame/buffer interaction
> 
> More: When it does that resize, it does NOT make them all
>       the same size.  It makes all EXCEPT the top window
>       be the same size.  AND it appears that the distance
>       my mouse pointer strays below the modebar before the
>       resize happens affects the new sizes of those windows.
> 
>       I did the dragging and went WELL below the stopped
>       modebar and the windows resized to 8-10 lines each.
> 
>       I re-did the dragging and went just a TINY bit below
>       the mode bar and the windows resized to 1 line each!
>       And that "1 line" is, I believe, less than the minimum
>       size (that I haven't changed from default).
> 
>       Well, I'm hoping these data points might help you.
> 
>               Mike
> 
> 
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>       From:   EXT-Broida, Michael P
>       Sent:   Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:02 AM
>       To:     address@hidden; 'address@hidden'
>       Cc:     address@hidden; address@hidden
>       Subject:        RE: Weird frame/buffer interaction
> 
>       Hi again!
>               OK, I just now saw what I assume is the "magic resize" you
>               mentioned.  VERY disconcerting.
> 
>               I had 6 windows in one frame, and was able to shrink the
>               bottom 4 of them down to their minimum size normally.
>               (NOTE: that minimum size seems to SOMETIMES be "1",
>               SOMETIMES "2", and SOMETIMES "3".  VERY weird.)
> 
>               When I tried to expand the very top window such that all
>               the others would be minimum size at the bottom, it stopped
>               when it reached that "all minimum" state.  But my mouse hand
>               continued to move downward and suddenly all the lower
>               windows "magically resized" to 5 or 6 lines tall.  This is
>               unpleasant, to say the least.
> 
>               I was able to, carefully, shrink each one back to minimum
>               again.  And I was able to reproduce that magic resizing
>               several times in a row.
> 
>       Stats:
>               GNU Emacs 21.1.1 (i386-msvc-nt4.0.1381) of 2001-10-22 on
> buffy
>               WinNT 4.0 with SP6 (I'm pretty sure about the SP#).
>               All buffers had either .cpp or .h files in them, thus were
> in
>                       "C Abbrev" or "C++ Abbrev" mode.
>               Holler if you would like my .emacs and site-start.el files.
>                       I do just about zero fancy stuff in those files or
> in
>                       my use of Emacs.
> 
>       NOTE: I still often get that condition where dragging the modebars
>               down SOMETIMES allow and SOMETIMES disallows the compression
>               of multiple windows below that modebar.  Perhaps it is
> related
>               in some way.  Holler for details.
> 
>                       Mike
> 
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>               From:   Richard Stallman[SMTP:address@hidden
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>               Sent:   Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:07 PM
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>               Subject:        Re: Weird frame/buffer interaction
> 
>                   I just tried to create 6 windows on a frame (50x132)
> with 
> 
>               I can't even see the bottom window when I try this, not even
> with font 5x7.
>               So I can't debug it.  But I can answer some questions:
> 
>                   Depending on the sequence in which the windows are
> split, the "magic"
>                   resizing of the windows seem to affect all or only some
> of the
>                   windows.  So it is might be related to "parent/child"
> window
>                   relationships?
> 
>               Not in a case like this.  When all the splittings are
> vertical,
>               you get one set of equal siblings under a single parent
> window.
> 
>               Can you make the problem happen using C-x ^?  That way you
> could
>               determine more precisely when the problem happens, so you
> could get
>               set up such that the next C-x ^ command will produce the
> problem.
>               That would make it more convenient to step thru and see why
> it
>               suddenly makes all the windows equal in size.
> 
> 
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