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25.0.93; `text-quoting-style' missing from manual and from customize |
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Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:59:25 -0300 |
While reading the Emacs NEWS file I was happy to discover that the
variable `text-quoting-style' can be used to see the conventional
readable and unambiguous quoting style for symbols in help buffers etc..
However, when I tried to set it, I discovered that it is missing from
Customize.
[Putting (setq text-quoting-style 'grave) in my init file works, but I
prefer to use custom-set-variables as a matter of course to benefit
from its advantages.]
Additionally, when I looked in the Emacs Manual, I couldn't find an
entry for `text-quoting-style'.
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Re: bug#23372: 25.0.93; text-quoting-style missing from manual and from customize |
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Tue, 26 Apr 2016 09:30:06 +0300 |
> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:41:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden
>
> It _should_ be a user option. You've radically changed the
> default behavior of Emacs. Give individual users a simple
> way to undo your choice. This is at least as important as
> letting a user change the default appearance of a face.
I don't think we know enough about the impact of this feature to make
that decision at this time. We will have to see how it is accepted by
the users out there first. It could be deemed by the majority as the
best invention since sliced bread. Having a variable to disable it is
a good fire escape for now.
> And yes, it should be prominently documented.
It is, just not in the user manual.
Closing.
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