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[Emacs-bug-tracker] bug#9219: closed (24.0.50; bidi switches to R-to-L w
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[Emacs-bug-tracker] bug#9219: closed (24.0.50; bidi switches to R-to-L when I don't want it to) |
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Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:30:02 +0000 |
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24.0.50; bidi switches to R-to-L when I don't want it to |
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Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:06:36 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Occasinally I use א (x5d0) at the beginning of a paragraph (as a marker
for some quite but not completly unrelated thought, cf. Agamben).
This makes emacs display the buffer aligned to the right (correctly, as
for the docstring of `bidi-paragraph-direction'), which is not what I want.
There are various workarounds (setting above variable, disabling bidi
reordering, using ℵ (ALEF SYMBOL x2135) or giving up that marking
scheme), but there should be a way to indicate the direction of a
specific paragraph, shouldn't there?
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.2 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
of 2011-07-30 on flo-laptop
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11001000
configured using `configure '--with-x-toolkit=lucid' 'CFLAGS=-march=core2
-msse2 -mssse3 -mcx16 -mfpmath=sse -O2 -pipe''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Help
Minor modes in effect:
diff-auto-refine-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
yas/global-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: 0
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
view-mode: t
Recent input:
<down> <next> <next> <next> <next> <next> <next> <next>
<next> <next> <next> <next> <next> <next> <next> <prior>
<prior> <next> <next> <prior> <prior> <prior> <prior>
<prior> <prior> <prior> <prior> <prior> <prior> <prior>
<prior> <prior> <next> <next> <prior> <prior> <prior>
<prior> C-c C-c y <switch-frame> q g <return> <down>
<return> SPC n SPC n <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <return>
n q <up> <up> <up> <return> <return> n SPC n SPC SPC
n n q <return> <return> SPC n C-g <up> <up> <up> <up>
<return> <down> <return> SPC <down> <return> n q l
g <down> c y <up> <up> <up> <return> <return> q <up>
<up> <return> c y l <switch-frame> C-o C-x b N o p
<tab> <backspace> <tab> 2 <tab> <return> <C-end> <return>
C-x 8 <return> a l e p <tab> <tab> <C-backspace> *
a l e <tab> P <tab> <tab> <right> <backspace> <backspace>
<end> <home> * C-k a l e <tab> f <tab> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-2> <return> <return> M-x M-p C-g C-x 7 C-x 8
<return> * a l e f <tab> <tab> <tab> <tab> <tab> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-2> SPC s o m e SPC t h o u g h t <up> <up> SPC
s p <backspace> o m e SPC t h o u g h t C-x s <escape>
: ( s e t q SPC d <backspace> b i d i - d <tab> SPC
t ) <return> <escape> : <up> <end> <left> <backspace>
n i l <return> <down> <down> <up> <up> <up> C-SPC C-SPC
<up> <up> <up> M-w <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <end> : SPC C-y C-y C-y <escape> : <up> <return>
<escape> : <up> <up> <return> <escape> : <up> <up>
<return> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up>
C-x = C-o M-x r e p o r t SPC e m <tab> <return>
Recent messages:
nil
Mark set
Mark activated
Mark set [3 times]
nil
t
Saving file /home/flo/DATA/Org/Notizen-2011.org...
Wrote /home/flo/DATA/Org/Notizen-2011.org
nil
Char: א (1488, #o2720, #x5d0, file ...) point=44746 of 45797 (98%) column=0
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Viele Grüße,
Florian Beck
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Re: bug#9219: 24.0.50; bidi switches to R-to-L when I don't want it to |
Date: |
Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:26:41 +0300 |
> From: Florian Beck <address@hidden>
> Cc: Florian Beck <address@hidden>, address@hidden
> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:04:21 +0200
>
> > So I think you only _think_ you have the LRM character between the
> > aleph and the following a, because the bar cursor makes a small
> > movement when you move from aleph to the a, but is shown between aleph
> > and a in both positions.
>
> Yet <right> moves the point from 2 to 3. Ah, I get it: the cursor moves
> from the right of the alef to the left of the a. Obvious, when you think
> about it…
So this mystery is gone.
> >> (but the cursor movement in rtl paragraphs confuses me, too).
> >
> > It takes some time to get used to. The manual says something vague
> > about it, like "don't be afraid, it's not a bug" or something.
>
> >From the manual and the docstrings I had the impression that <up>,
> <down>, <right> and <left> would move visually.
Well, it actually is not easy to say something more accurate, see the
thread that started here:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-06/msg00005.html
> Also, <right> moves to the left (inside the ltr text inside the rtl
> paragraph).
Yes, that's how they are meant to move.
I'm closing this bug report.
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